974 going to the Wilmington OH. Mile

[Beck]

I have been seeing new government surplus turbos for several months. They are usually in lots of 3 or 4. For months there were probably 50 lots listed at one time. Currently there is only one. All of these auctions that I remember were from OK. Here is a link.

http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=5856564&convertTo=USD

This auction ends on the 13th so the link will not be available after that.

There have been several different models available. If someone knew the turbo market well I'm sure there have been some that would have worked for automotive usage. I don't have any idea what's what. None of these may have been optimum for an application, but could have been close.
Any turbo experts here on the board?

[Hooley]

Thanks Beck,
                      I looked up the part numbers up and couldn't find a great lot of info about them.  After talking to people at the show last week they are probably not near big enough.  One recomandition was  2/  two  Garret GT55 tubros with 94MM  compressors. I have several different people to talk to about systems and parts.   I haven't found any that is on the $$$ friendly side yet.

          Hooley

[Hooley]

I am back from the IMIS show in Indy.  I am so full of it now  [knowledge that is] I have became confused.  I talked with Manley about the valves for the Dart 360 heads. They recommended using small block size stems.  Any thoughts on this??  

   I'm starting to gather the parts to assemble the long block. I was hoping to have it done the first part of Jan but now maybe the first of Feb.

          Hooley

[Hooley]

We have began to work on the 974 Stude for Bonneville 2013.

1. Our plan is to build the 572 ci Dart engine with twin Tubros.  

2. A blow through Carb.

3. Move the fuel tank to the trunk area.

4. Mount the engine water tank in front of the engine.

5. Mount the ice water to inter cooler in the passenger seat area.

6. Stretch the front of the car 24"
I will post a rendering of what it could look like.  John's friend made the rendering.

The engine block is at the machine shop getting piston oilers put in.
The heads are there getting the extra 4 head studs that Dart has fixed for their blocks.

Now all it takes in work.  Must go to work.

Your Friend,
Hooley

[purplepickup]

I like your plan.  It sounds like you're getting serious.

Getting that engine cooling tank out of the passenger area is a great plan.  That's a lot of very hot water sitting right next to you.  The ice water tank will be much safer in my opinion.

The stretch should add stability at the new (faster) speeds.  Studebaker's designs might have been influenced by airplanes of the day but I'm sure they weren't made to fly.

Looking forward to seeing you and the car this summer.  Ain't retirement fun?

[Hooley]

Thanks George,

                     I am thinking of the ice tank as an air-conditioner for the driver. A little extra plumbing and we're good to go.

      Hooley

[Beck]

Thanks George,

                     I am thinking of the ice tank as an air-conditioner for the driver. A little extra plumbing and we're good to go.

      Hooley

I have a cool vest available if you don't want to mess with the plumbing. It is an adjustable vest with pockets on the inside. There are ice packs that are made to fit into the pockets. There is no temperature control. Once you put it on you would have to wear it until the fire suit top comes off. You are going to have to haul ice for the intercooler so these packs could be kept in that cooler.
Using the tank water you could turn the pump on and off or bypass the vest giving you some temperature control. You would have to be in the car before you could hook up to it, so you could still be hot sitting in the starting line.
It's yours if you want to try it.

The pulling tractor (540 ci diesel with 55 lb of boost 3000 rpm) I help with uses $25 to $30 worth of ice for every pass. Another racing expense. I don't think your tank will be that big. You may not turn the circulation pump on until your rolling. The tractor has coolent flow well before the pull starts to get the intake system as cold as possible. It needs full HP as it leaves the line, but it is only a 10 second ride. There is still some ice in the tank after pulling back to the tow rig, so it is oversized. A minute and a half will put a big strain on your coolant.

I wouldn't want hot water circulating in your "cool" vest.

[Hooley]

Thanks Beck,
                 That was just in jest that I thought of the tank as a cooler since the other tank just got hotter and hotteer as we went down track.  I haven't ever had a real problem with the heat.   Zip lock bags with some ice in them has worked on unbearable days.  I still like the KISS style of operations.

 I have the old engine ready to take out this morning and start streaching the frame.  It should happen this week.

The clutch disc looked like it was on it's last leg and the fly wheel needs to be surfaced.

Back to work
Later Hooley

[Beck]

Thanks Beck,
                 That was just in jest that I thought of the tank as a cooler since the other tank just got hotter and hotteer as we went down track.  I haven't ever had a real problem with the heat.   Zip lock bags with some ice in them has worked on unbearable days.  I still like the KISS style of operations.

 I have the old engine ready to take out this morning and start streaching the frame.  It should happen this week.

The clutch disc looked like it was on it's last leg and the fly wheel needs to be surfaced.

Back to work
Later Hooley

The flywheel might be getting a little thin. You had that resurfaced in Salt Lake City on the last Bonneville trip didn't you? How many cuts have been made on it? If you turn the hp down a little they will last longer....

[Hooley]

Yes we did turn the flywheel the last time at Bonneville.  We have made several passes at the mile runs and some of them were launched on the clutch.  The last couple of times we pushed off with the truck.  It now shows that we probably save the clutch some by pushing off.  

The front clip is setting out in the drive way. I cut it 5" out from the fire wall. A trip to the metal store this afternoon will let me start putting it back together tomorrow.  

Hooley

[Flipper]

Are you going to make the front a little more aero too?  

During Speedweek 2010, I remember you talking about not wanting to lose the stude look by completely shaving the headlights.  Maybe drop the diameter of the headlight to five inchers and taper the fenders down to match?  I'm not sure what all is legal to do.

[Beck]

Are you going to make the front a little more aero too?  

During Speedweek 2010, I remember you talking about not wanting to lose the stude look by completely shaving the headlights.  Maybe drop the diameter of the headlight to five inchers and taper the fenders down to match?  I'm not sure what all is legal to do.

From the firewall forward anything goes in the Comp Coupe class. I don't know what the plans are, but I am guessing it will just be an extension of the current nose. That's what the modified photo shows.

[Hooley]

OK, We are trying to keep every thing simple right now. We have a lot on the plate to get done in order to make Speed Week.  WsJunk  is going to work on the nose and I am doing the metal work.  Sum is engineering the turbo system and spoiler if there is time.

Off to work,
Hooley

[Crosley.In.AZ]

Sounds good... remember = air flow, air flow..    

ALso use the top quality  hose connectors and clamps on the boost side of turbos , through the intercooler , into the engine.  Some folks try to save some cash there and the system blows apart under high boost & vibration

[Hooley]

Tony,
       I have favored the T-bolt clamps for a while.  I remember Gary Hart in impound and didn't know the radiator hose had blowed off at the end of his qualifing run.  The results was a fried engine on the back up run.  I try not to use any more flex hose than I have too. Much rather run hard line with flex ends.

I have the frame stretched and braced. We're waiting on roll bar material to extend the down bars and truss type bracing for them.



Hooley