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Sorry to hear about all the bad luck.. My grandma always believes that bad things happen in threes...but I don't think it is supposed to mean multiples.

Get well soon, and give it all to insurance....nice to try to help; but you'll pay for it in the end.  Let the guys who get paid to deal with stuff like that, do their job....So you can get on the the topless cruising and stirrups and trapezoid pulling stuff....

Hey guys,

I am here now. Been here for a week. I'm at an Army base supporting some F-16 fighters.
BFN

Walt

by supporting do you mean 'wrenching'?!?!?  I spent my summer 200 miles North East of Whitehorse, Yukon Territory on the border of the Northwest Territories looking after a Longranger and a 206...but I've sat in an F-16 before...hard seat!!!

You have all of my respect for doin' what you do, and going to Iraq to do it.  Keep up the good work; and come home in one piece!!!  (To think that the greatest threat I faced was a driller that hadn't seen a female in months-but that's where my 1/2" breaker bar comes in!!)

Keep cool and the best of wishes to you!!!

just thought ya oughta see who i work with..

My Dad and I's 135 lb pet pony; drips drool everywhere the moment she hears a beer being opened, or a cork being pulled and drinks bourbon too:  

Meet Arwen...

Long as I'm on a roll this morning....

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I have to knock out another one of these adapters in the near future and when I do I'll post some dis-assembled pics.
Even so, I think you can see how it works.

Excellent.  Thank you so much for all the pics.  They are almost aircraft but not quite....cool.  I would have never guessed about the repair cuff you use....that is something I have to see if Dad knows about.  

I've only seen real aircraft stamped fittings on a handful of cars; and I always suspected that iether they 'saved' them from disposal or knew somebody that did.

On a side note; this week I turned in my Engineering Licence Application to Transport Canada for both an M1 And an M2 classification....here's to hoping that I might be licenced by Christmas......  :b-d:

I just happened to notice the blue and red fittings and steel braided hosing on that sexy engine of yours....

A while back there was a request for help with the routing of a fuel line; and a statement was made in regards to the terminology associated with fittings.  AN-fittings, NPT, and the such.  I answered with a tentitive explanation of the terms from my Aircraft hardware backaround..but found myself out beyond my knowledge pretty quick.

My question is as such: since aircraft flares are made at a 37 degree flare, then are those blue fittings genuine aircraft fittings?  Do you have two flaring kits that you have to alternate between?

The blue fittings I work with on a daily basis are always stamped the same, and I have seen fittings on vehicles that are the same blue, but with no stampings...so is there a manufacturer that makes them specifically for automotive, that are at a 45 degree flare?  

Then the term Aeroquip hose came up....and in helicopters it's expensive stuff and usually come with the fittings when you order the part number out of the IPB....but in my general supply books, there are part numbers for the 'screw-in' fittings and instructions for hose assembly and testing.  Where does this come in for Automotive applications....could I buy it at Lordco/NAPA?

Now I've got my head all turned upside down and feel a little sheepish for all the effort of trying to sound smart....Maybe someone could set me straight? :oops:

Thank you!!!!

I must admit I find this whole 'brand loyalty' thing a bit strange.  Some people look at my pickup, and put me down because it doesn't run a Ford engine.  Some seem to get quite passionate about it.

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"What do you drive?" they ask
"a ZR2 Jimmy" I say...
"Oh, you're a Chevy girl..." some say/sneer/whatever
"and I own a Dodge Monaco"
"How can you be in to Mopar when you drive a chevy" they say with a raised eyebrow
"and I have three fords"
"That doesn't make any sense; then what kind of car person are you?"

"I'm a car enthusiast." I smile.

when I called Summit to check on a solution, the tech guy told me I needed to buy a 37 degree flaring tool to get the right flare. I would assume that most of the automotive applications out there use the Aeroquip or Jeg's fittings they sell, so I don't understand why most of the ones you see are using 45? Are the fittings wrong are is the flare wrong?

Most of the ones I see are just the same colour blue with no stampings on any of the flats....so, since every single freakin' aircraft fitting I see has them, I guess I just assume they are not aircraft but a 45 degree flare coupling that is made to look like them.  Who makes them, where you buy them, and what they are actually called; I have no idea.

The term Aeroquip (again, in aviation....which is the mechanics that I am exposed to on a daily basis) applies to the company that makes the hose itself.  I was under the impression that any replacement hose we use (say if it's ordered from Bell Helcopters) is that Bell buys the hose from Aeroquip then installs the 37 'sleeve-type' end fitting (because Eurocopter uses the exact same hose, only with metric thread fittings).....  My Aircraft Standards Handbook only tells me that the part number for the sleeve starts with MS (Military Standard) but tells me to refer to the manufacturer for the appropriate part number.

I would think that if all coolant fittings that come with your favorite engines are 45 degree, then there should be automotive versions for those peolpe that don't want to have some 37 flares and some 45 flares.

As I said....who makes them, where to buy them and what THEIR part number is, is beyond me.

But I'd love to hear if someone else does?!!!

1)  Nintendo frist came out; My brother used to smack the cartridges on the floor when they didn't work.
2)  Pogo Sticks; that bird was killed out by explorers.  They must have eaten the sticks parts.
3)  Soda shops;I see those in the movies.
4)  Lassie; my dad told me that the nieghbor down the street was the first house to have a TV, and he thought that for the longest time, Lassie was on whenever the TV would be turned on.
5)  The start of Rock and Roll...It was some black guys first quote after a crazy concert...the interviewer asked him what he was playing...
6)  Big Chief tablets......
7)  Phone number starting with Letters...right after the age of the dinosaur..
 8 or 4 tracks; my grandfather had boxes of them
9)  Cork Guns...pellet guns?
10)  Putting baseball card in your spokes...clipping little plastic beads on your spokes that only made noise at slow speeds.
11)  Black Jack gum....Jawbreakers
12)  Howdy Doody; the Polka Dot Door...Casey and Finnegan
13)  S$H green stamps :?
14)  cigarette loads...Copenhagen snuff
15)  heel taps. (that went on the heel of your shoes);  pennies with holes drilled in them in your rainbow laces
16)  Roy Rodger's horse's name  Trigger.  what was the name of the evil character cats in the Smurfs?
17)  Poodle Shirts; I see those at car shows.
18)  Hula Hoop; koosh ball
19)  American Bandstand...I got nothin'
20) 21) 22)  Only the stuff of legends....
23)  Bellbottom pants;all the rage.
24)  25)  So far ahead of their time...there still not back yet.

Still alittle wet behind the ears...I guess....

I guess I just need some help understanding what all the terms mean. I guess there are different types of flares, then there are NPT ends, AN fittings. I just want something simple that isn't going to cost me a fortune.

Can anybody explain how all these fittings work?

I can't help with the fuel line routing (I must acknowledge that I am greatly under-experienced when it comes to the other people on this website) but I can help with the terminology part of it.  Most of this is from first term college notes(and they are a little on the 'morning after' side) so please correct me if I am wrong....
NPT stands for National Pipe Thread....I *think* the angle of the thread (the actual peaks and valleys of the thread, not the turns/inch) is closer to a 90 degree angle (less chance of stripping, ie. thicker material) and the thread will get wider in diameter the farther back from start it goes...if that makes any sense.  That's why there is a fair amount of thread showing even after a connection is tight.

AN is originally aircraft term (AN is short for Air Force and Navy which means that the hardware was made to their established standards) but I think that it has been 'borrowed' in automotive because of the similarity  to *AN fittings*  that I encounter in every fuel and low pressure hydraulic line on the helicopter.  It usually is an anodized blue coupling nut with (in proper installs) a sleeve underneath.

The tricky thing about the term AN fittings, and what I look for when I am checking out the engine bays of most show cars, is that 95% of all the blue fitting I see are not actual AN fittings!!  because aircraft tubing flares are made at a 35-37 degree flare, where as automotive are 45 degrees.  Genuine AN fittings will have AN or an LA stamped down/on some flats.  

most tool dealers will give you a wierd look when you ask for a 37 degree flaring tool....so I know that if I see real AN fitting on a vehicle (an I have seen one or two) then I figure that the guy must have way too much money and time....or he's an aircraft engineer too, and he just 'borrowed them' from work.

Does this help? Probably not.  But it makes me feel smart  

:cry: I just got back from the hospital.  Race rushed Rudy there early this afternnon.  Looks like he might have had a heart attack.  The doctors aren't sure yet, they're still running tests.  Typical guy, he had all the signs before but kept ignoring them.  As soon as he gets better I'm going to kick his *, in the mean time if all his friends here would keep him in their thoughts and prayers, I'd certainly appreciate it. :cry:

Dad and I will light some incence for him.  I wish him and all those involved all the best possible fortune.

I finally relented and bought a dehumidifier for the basement. To my surprise the rain forest is disappearing. I'm pouring out a gallon every two days.
As I'm dumping this down the drain I started to wonder if using this accumulated water in the cooling system and possibly the battery would be as good as the suggested distilled water. It's got to be better then tap water, especially here with our extra hard stuff. Any thoughts or known drawbacks? Thanks, Frank

I'm not sure if this will help: but a Harley Owner friend of mine had a horrible problem with humidity in  a below-ground garage (into the side of a hill)-all the the leather was covered with mildew within two weeks....he was devastated.....

Since this guy let me store the Monaco there for the better part of the summer while I prettied it up and found storage for it; my dad and I did some searching and found this stuff called Xypex (I think that is the spelling) and you can get it at a Home Depot in the concrete department.  

It's a powder that is mixed with water in to a slurry (like pancake batter) and gooped on to the walls.  It has to be kept wet for three days with gentle hosing (not to rinse it off) and then allowed to dry.  

The stuff bonds with water and forms a solid crystal lattice up to 8" (or 11", I can't remember)  in back in to the concrete itself (but most walls aren't that thick).  As as wetness creeps in, this stuff remains active.  Ever since we put it on in the middle of August, he said that he barely turns the massive de-humidifier on anymore (just to make sure the stuff is working....).  Before he was emptying the drip try sometimes twice a day.

It dries the same colour as concrete.  Maybe this will help?

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  I'm not liking this, if any of the other events are like the Nats North there won't be enough room if this eventually goes to all the events. Think of Louisville if it were open to pre '75, there has to be at least as many cars around that are post '48 as pre '48; probably more. (think muscle cars) If the participation goes up by even 50% where will everyone park....or stay?
I like the feel of the pre '48 events, even if a few of the cars are actually only six months old. I can't put my finger on it exactly why this is, but I know the events wouldn't have the same attraction for me if they were opened to '75.
   Hopefully the NSRA won't be a victim of it's own  success...

You guys are all scared that the next thing you'll see is my old '75 Plymouth Fury 'pimp-ride' barrellling down the courses like a bloated oil-tanker in the North Sea.

funny....but not so slick looking.

Hello, y'all....nice to be back again.
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Since I haven't bought the car/'collection of parts' yet (I'm going to go looking at it again on Saturday), I figured I would be presumptious (and a little mis-interpreted) in referring to myself as 69'n'girl......  
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HeliMouse.

Welcome back.

In 'Downunderland' we use 240 volt single phase, and 415 volt three-phase power.  Is this what you have in Canada; or do you use the US system of 110/220v?  Check before you get the lift.

Did you know that '181' is 'metric' for '69', so you could use this tag.  
181'n'girl......  :lol

Where would you get wierd numbers like that? Only in Aussie, Eh?  But, all joshing aside; that is something I never would have thought about...

thank you.

181'n'girl....hmmm :?  that doesn't have the nicest ring...but the guy that I bought the Talladega from calls me TallyGirl...which is cute.  He's been telling all his friends that the rare car he had was bought by a girl....well woman, something....whatever.  He's so awesome (providing oodles of reference material, pictures, help and hints) I feel very fortunate to come in contact with someone like that (any time I will run in to problems with the rebuild, it feels like he would be more than happy to help).

Makes me smile, and ignore the debt.  :cry:

welcome back we missed ya!

i moved your pics over here.

Oh cool....thank you!!!  just to make sure I don't get any flack for the lack of attention to interior detail: the car did get a vacuum...eventually.  My grandfather is a compulsive collector, so the car's trunk was filled to the brim with old carpets, paint cans (all used 'til empty) broken tools and floor mats.  I think I pulled out five layers of matting in the cabin.

You should have seen the house.....we collected two five-gallon pails of used combs and there were three rooms filled with broken flower pots, to start with....

Okay, look in the test forum....my computer shows that I posted some pictures under 'Grandfathers 1967 Monaco'