Ford 460 oil pump rear sump pan

WZ JUNK · June 05, 2019, 09:00:07 PM

I started converting my 460 Ford to a rear sump with the Ford racing kit that includes the pan and oil pickup . There are no instructions included. After I removed the pan I discovered that the oil pump will not work as the pickup tube that I have will not bolt to the front sump pan pump. I have been told by a neighbor that I need a truck oil pump. Will I also need the drive shaft for the truck pump or are the drive shafts the same for the two pumps ?

enjenjo · June 05, 2019, 10:49:39 PM

You have the Ford part number for the pan? There are several it could be, and they don't all use the same parts.

GPster · June 05, 2019, 11:18:08 PM

Does this mean you found a title for the ranger? GPster

WZ JUNK · June 06, 2019, 08:10:37 AM

Quote from: "enjenjo"You have the Ford part number for the pan? There are several it could be, and they don't all use the same parts.

Pan came as a kit from Ford that included the pan, pickup, dipstick, and a gasket that has to be modified before it can be used. No instructions and there are no instructions available from Ford.

WZ JUNK · June 06, 2019, 08:49:57 AM

A quick look at Oreilly's and they show two Mellings. One is a high volume. I wonder about using the high volume?

kb426 · June 06, 2019, 09:09:39 AM

I found this:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,1974,f-250,7.5l+460cid+v8,1122905,engine,oil+pump,5564

WZ JUNK · June 06, 2019, 09:27:11 AM

Quote from: "kb426"I found this:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,1974,f-250,7.5l+460cid+v8,1122905,engine,oil+pump,5564

The M84DHV is the high volume with the shaft included. Thats the one I am leaning towards.

I am going to try to call the Ford Racing tech line and see what they say.

I am paranoid about ruining a new engine with a wrong part.

John

WZ JUNK · June 06, 2019, 09:47:49 AM

Ford racing tech guy says not to use the high volume pump as it will interfear with the oil pan I am using. He says the drive shaft for all the big block pumps are the same. He gave me the Melling number M84D as the pump to use.

I will see if the parts store has one.

Thanks for the assistance.

I am still waiting on the title Joe. I will need the rear sump pan on the engine for most vehicles that I would want to use this engine. So I thought I would get the engine ready even it the Ranger title does not show up.

John