Counterfeit products on the market

[Crosley.In.AZ]

I watched a video by a youtube guy Project Farm.  He does some dang good testing of stuff usually.

He bought and tested DeWalt, Milwaukee, Mikita batterys for cordless tools.  Original and counterfeit ones.  The packages , the battery design on the outside was nearly correct.  Easy to over look the fake battery.

The battery copies did not hold up power wise in most of the tests.  Safety features were not in most of the fake batterys .

He opened the batterys up and investigated the internals... Kinda eye opening test group he did

[WZ JUNK]

I have watched a lot of his videos.  He does a great job testing and comparing a lot of stuff.  His test are well thought out and he collects data.  I will watch this one.

[Crosley.In.AZ]

Counterfeit products are every where.

Spark plugs have been a big market for fake product for years.  I only buy spark plugs from a parts supplier of a major name store.  Not sure if these stores do not have some fake stuff get into their systems or not?

There was a Big bru haha about Broader Valve bodies for transmissions on Summit Racing several weeks ago.  It seems it was SpeedMaster linked to the fake valve bodies , even with the Broader name on the v=body.  Summit removed the product from sales.  I do Not know where or what the final resolution was on this.

Broader Performance put a video about this up on Youtube weeks ago..  He had ordered a fake v=body to investigate

[enjenjo]

Back some years ago there was a big stink about counterfeit Nuts and Bolts being supplied to the Lima Tank plant for use on the A1 Abrams tanks. They came from a large reginal supplier are were marked as Lake Erie brand. I know we got some from the same supplier and the heads would pop off the shank when you ran them down with an impact wrench long before they were at proper torque. The workers at Lima just glued the bolt heads back on with silicone sealer. The bolt supplier went out of business before they could pay all the fines and penalties.

[Crosley.In.AZ]

I have watched a lot of his videos.  He does a great job testing and comparing a lot of stuff.  His test are well thought out and he collects data.  I will watch this one.

John : it was eye opening the details the counterfeit battery packaging and the battery itself had. Very easy to mistake for OEM brand battery.

The counterfeit spark plugs came to the surface for me on a Goldwing forum several years ago.. A fellow there got some cheap copy of NGK spark plugs and had problems with misfire on the bike.

At one time there was a web site that detailed differences on spark plugs from fake to OEM..

 

[jaybee]

I saw the Broader video. There was no way to mistake the valve body Summit was selling for the real thing, but you had to know what the real thing was supposed to look like.

[purplepickup]

I watched the Project Farm video on batteries too and if I remember right, he doesn't show a way to tell if you're buying counterfeit or not. I guess we just have to buy from the big stores and trust that they've done their homework.

[Crosley.In.AZ]

I watched the Project Farm video on batteries too and if I remember right, he doesn't show a way to tell if you're buying counterfeit or not. I guess we just have to buy from the big stores and trust that they've done their homework.

I came away from the video thinking there are very few differences to check for if the package is sealed. ? When Project Farm guy opened the battery case up... The differences were many. Low quality battery cells and more.  It was interesting how a couple the faux batts he was able to set on fire via shorting them out.

When my cordless tool batteries go bad , I am not sure what to buy at this point.?

IF y'all remember the Craftsman 19.2 volt cordless tools from many years ago?  A friend still has his old tools. He buys the cheap lithium replacement batterys. The batts are low on power and a short life between charges.

Last summer he borrowed a couple of my Milwaukee cordless tools.  He did comment on how well the battery held up and my tools were much lighter than his old Craftsman.  We were in the AZ mountains, his Craftsman tools were at home.  I keep tools in my RV as we travel.

[sirstude]

I have a few of the old Craftsman tool 19.2v, found a couple of replacement batteries, that do not claim to be Craftsman and the seem to work ok.  The only tool of them that I use with any regularity is the cordless vac.

[jaybee]

This is a good conversation. I have some of the old Firestorm tools and had considered buying replacement batteries from Amazon.

[purplepickup]

I've been using a battery adapter to use Dewalt 20V batteries in Craftsman 19.2V tools. They work good and have a usb port that comes in handy. https://shorturl.at/e7vXO

[chimp koose]

I dont know why but I am surprised that there are fake spark plugs .

[jaybee]

Thanks, George. I'm not sure if everyone here realizes the older Firestorm, 18v NiCad batteries are actually the same voltage as the new, 20v LIon batteries. They measure them differently to make them seem more powerful. They do run a lot longer.