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#1
Rodder's Roundtable / Re: Lots of new pictures...
September 02, 2004, 11:09:37 PM
Lookinf at them right now.

I must say you take awesome pics,I love your coverage of the shows. :D
#2
Rodder's Roundtable / model A suspension & ride quality?
September 02, 2004, 10:58:57 PM
Quote from: "48ford"Unrelated to this string,but for a graet bed(yes I too have back problems)spend the bucks and get a foam bed that they advertize on t.v. with the girl walking on and can't spill the glass,trust me,we just got home from a visit with#2 son and i was shocked! best sleep i had in a long time!
I don't care what it cost your worth it.
thats why we are selling the mach-1 and we built the 46 ford.hurts me to ride in the mustang.
sorry to hi jack the post.
Russ&Irene

ill take a look at that.iam on a pillow top now,and fells pretty darn good.But anything that can help Iam defintely for :D

I have an 89' stang vert that the rear end over bumps feels like there is no suspension at all.Hurts like he!! when i drive it.Thats one them ill be getting rid of for this project.
#3
Rodder's Roundtable / model A suspension & ride quality?
September 02, 2004, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: "GPster"
Quote from: "Prime Evil"
   One of the things you things you will find out is the heigth of the rubber of the tires acts as a shock absorber. One of the new 45 series tire on 17' rims will be a lot stiffer than a 205/75 15" even though they might have the same outside diameter. I can't remember weather the front wheels were spokes or spindle/mount American style but the shortness in side/wall height of the motorcycle type tire would be part of what would kill the ride. If they are spoke wheels you might find a differant rim and have the hubs re-laced to them. 40 spokes is somewhat standard and if you look around on motorcycle site you might find someone to make a set of spokes to fit. The wider the tire the more grip to the road they will have. Because of the apparent weight of the vehicle  and the size of the front tires the brakes shown in the second pictures (I couldn't see the brakes in the first picture) Camero front brakes might be overkill. You could think about a second set of calipers on each disc. The heavy discs are made to cool themselves and might be better suited to a heavy vehicle with fenders. When I put coils on my coupe I didn't use coil-overs, I used front coil springs out of a Corvair. If you think about the wire in coils as a wound up torsion bar the bigger coil diameter seemed to make more sense to me. It also was built like an early '50s Oldsmobile set-up with long bars and the coils behind the axel. With the coils behind the axel and the long bars 3" move of the axel might corespond to a 4" move of the springs which seemed to knock some of the harshness out of my set-up. But you'd still be sitting real close to the botion with the short wheelbase. One other idea would be that just because the floor sits on top of the frame doesnt mean that the bottom of the seat cushions have to start at the top of the floor. With out-side exhaust there might be room between the inside of the frame rails and the driveshaft to make some wells in the floor for more seat cushion. Have you bought it yet? GPster

Thanks for all the informative responses!!! :D

I have not bought it as of yet,need some more funding to acquire it actually.I have a few misc items i need to liquidate and few vehicles as well.Iam looking towards the end of the year before i get my grubby hands on it :D

I will have to look at the seating arrangement a little closer when i go back out there,hopefully this weekend if i get the chance.Iam kinda stubby so I figured i would have to come up with some sort of brackets or mounts for the seats to mate to the floor.

I really do appreciate all the knowledge you are passing on,it helps me learn quicker then trial by error  :D
#4
Rodder's Roundtable / model A suspension & ride quality?
September 02, 2004, 12:52:48 PM
Thanks for the info!! :D

I was afraid the tiny 'cycle tries would induce more to the harsh ride.Glad to hear the front set up sounds like it will help out the ride.

Is there anything that can help ease the rear ride quality short of stretching the wheelbase?

As far as the seats,i was thinking a more modern bech seat out of a minivan or small import truck.That would give me some tushey cushion :lol:

Iam rethinking the front setup.Just go with a chrome reverse or torque thrusts like the rear, and "full" size disc brakes ala camaro or something similiar.

Thanks for all the informative responses!!! :D
#5
Rodder's Roundtable / model A suspension & ride quality?
September 01, 2004, 11:39:43 PM
Thanks for the insight  

I had l4/l5 fused awhile ago,but still acts up.Iam quit a bit shorter, 5'6" then the average joe.  
I dont how much leg room I would actually need ,but 4" can be quit a bit when it comes to comfort while driving.I Quess ill have to see if i can check out an A' PU cab for room/comfort before I leep into this.

As far as brakes,i would definetly do front brakes.I dont mind an exciting ride,but unsafe i dont care for.I Would rather have a safe ride then a car that looks the part and be worried.Would the airheart/wilwood spindle mount disc brakes be enough to feel comfortably safe?
#6
Rodder's Roundtable / model A suspension & ride quality?
September 01, 2004, 12:25:11 PM
Hi

Iam a newb,as if you couldnt tell :roll:

I was looking into building a Model A PU(31) that a local has in his hands.My concern was if it was possible with out resorting to Idependet front and rear suspension,to have a good ride quality?I would like to run a traditional styled suspension,drilled i beam & hairpin front,maybe a coil over rear?

Reason I ask is I have had a back surgery and want to get some kind of ride out of it.I am getting "building a traditional ford hot rod" by Mike Bishop to read this next week(snail mail) to gather more info/knowledge.

Any insight woul be great!

Tia