New Member Intro.

Robert Ohmen · January 23, 2007, 11:26:12 AM

Hello,
I'm new to this, so I guess I should tell you folks a bit about myself. I'm a has been bodyman and shop manager, and car nut who also rides a Harley. I have a 1950 chevy sport coupe and a 1951 chevy sedan delivery that I'm working on at this time. I have a few questions about the modifications I want to do and couldn't think of anyone better to ask than the people who have already done them. I have lots of years of experience in autobody repair, but I haven't seen it all. Hope we can help each other out. Bob.

Dave · January 23, 2007, 05:50:08 PM

Well Start askin away.. I gots a harley too! and a 32 coupe and a roadster im building to sell.
WELCOME
Dave

WZ JUNK · January 23, 2007, 06:14:17 PM

Welcome.

Fire away with any questions you have. I am working on a 1954 210 sedan. It has a lot of miles on it from moving it in and out of the shop. A project that I have been on for too long.

John

Robert Ohmen · January 23, 2007, 08:15:48 PM

Quote from: "jusjunk"Well Start askin away.. I gots a harley too! and a 32 coupe and a roadster im building to sell.
WELCOME
Dave

Well, here goes. I am getting ready to subframe my 51 chevy sedan delivery with a unit taken from a 79 or newer pontiac phoenix(which is the same part no. as a nova of the same years). How do I get info from anyone who has done this before.I mean, do I ask individuals (like yourself) or post it as a forum topic? Am I dumb or what? Bob

EMSjunkie · January 23, 2007, 08:16:59 PM

Welcome to our board,

Vance

Robert Ohmen · January 23, 2007, 08:39:15 PM

Quote from: "WZ JUNK"Welcome.

Fire away with any questions you have. I am working on a 1954 210 sedan. It has a lot of miles on it from moving it in and out of the shop. A project that I have been on for too long.

John

Hello, I know what you mean by "too long". I bought these cars 5 and 6 years ago and they have kept me very busy and very broke for most of that time. The 50 was bought as a donor but was in too good condition , so I bought a third. So far I have transferred the entire floor and the rt.rear quarter panel. I am working on the rear floor panels (self fabricated)now and planing ahead to when the body comes off the frame,and the modifications to the frame. Are you familiar with subframe swapping/ installing? I've only helped with one and that was a long time ago. Thanks for any advice you can give! Bob

Robert Ohmen · January 23, 2007, 08:48:24 PM

Quote from: "EMSjunkie"Welcome to our board,

Vance

Duuuuh, yup! I think so, too. lol

Crosley.In.AZ · January 23, 2007, 08:48:31 PM

welcome to the board.

enjenjo · January 23, 2007, 09:53:27 PM

Welcome to the RRT.

I've done several subframe jobs. First off the Phoenix/Nova front end is topo wide for your Chevy. The tread width is about 3" too wide. One from a Malibu, Cutlass or the like from 78 to 87 will fit much better. If you want to use the Phoenix front clip, you can use Corvette wheels from a C3 series Vette, and gain 2" on each side. The rear end from the Phoenix fits perfect.

Rayvyn · January 23, 2007, 10:04:59 PM

Aloha Bob, and welcome to the RRT...

WZ JUNK · January 24, 2007, 06:54:59 AM

Hello, I know what you mean by "too long". I bought these cars 5 and 6 years ago and they have kept me very busy and very broke for most of that time. The 50 was bought as a donor but was in too good condition , so I bought a third. So far I have transferred the entire floor and the rt.rear quarter panel. I am working on the rear floor panels (self fabricated)now and planing ahead to when the body comes off the frame,and the modifications to the frame. Are you familiar with subframe swapping/ installing? I've only helped with one and that was a long time ago. Thanks for any advice you can give! Bob[/quote]

I have built some frames with Mustang suspension and I have done a few subframe swaps. On your car, I would use an aftermarket crossmember and go with the Mustang II suspension. I like the way that the subframe swaps ride, drive, and stop. But the ease of the Mustang II installation with the top hat type frame that you have on the Chevy, I would go with the Mustang stuff.

John

40 · January 24, 2007, 09:56:38 AM

Can't help at all with the sub-frame swap but wanted to say hello and welcome!

msuguydon · January 24, 2007, 12:42:35 PM

I am a newbie to the whole Rod/Car thing, I am working on a 58 Chevy. I don't know my way around a garage or a car but I am learning, all I can give you is moral support

That's gotta be worth something!

Robert Ohmen · January 24, 2007, 12:55:19 PM

Quote from: "enjenjo"Welcome to the RRT.

I've done several subframe jobs. First off the Phoenix/Nova front end is topo wide for your Chevy. The tread width is about 3" too wide. One from a Malibu, Cutlass or the like from 78 to 87 will fit much better. If you want to use the Phoenix front clip, you can use Corvette wheels from a C3 series Vette, and gain 2" on each side. The rear end from the Phoenix fits perfect.

I think my tape measure lied to me because looking at them side by side, it looks like you are right. Guess I'll go out to the barn and roll around in the snow again with a new tape measure. Before, I measured a difference of 1" (the subframe being wider). Both have stock wheels and tires on them. Another variable may be that I first measured the 50 coupe and assumed that the 51 would be the same (the frame part numbers are the same). I also notice the brakes were changed in 51 and the drums might be different. I'll have to look in the book to see. THANKS! Bob

enjenjo · January 24, 2007, 02:53:27 PM

Here's a set of photos on doing a frame clip. It's a Chevy truck, but the principal is the same. http://enjenjo.com/frameclip.html