Help for a friend of a friend....

1FATGMC · September 17, 2005, 01:50:20 PM

A friend of mine who is here from Belgium stays over in Colo at a bed and breakfast every year. The ex-owner of the bed and breakfast, his friend, has a stock '32 Chevy 4 dr. sedan. He brought me the rear axle seal shown in these pictures and asked if I might know where he could find 2 of them. Anyone have any ideas? Sounds like he contacted some place that is called the "bearing guy" or something like that who specializes in old car bearings. He got two double sealed bearings that are I think Buick that are suppose to work with the chevy, but no seals.

The way I understand it is that this seal is inboard of the outer axle bearings and keeps the lub in the center section of the rearend. Then the outer bearing (on the old stock one) has a grease zerk to grease it with a felt seal on the outboard side of it. He is wondering with the new double sealed bearings if they would act to keep the lub in the center section. Without seeing it I don't know.

I'm thinking he might have to get the axle machined to accept a newer seal or else make something that could hold the new seal and press into the housing. When Francois and his wife go back to the bed and breakfast next week they will be there for another couple weeks and Julie and I might go over and spend a night. If so I might be able to look at the rearend then.

The number on the seal is Victor 49036.

If anyone can help, thanks,

Sum

rooster · September 17, 2005, 04:01:00 PM

Sence it has a number try NAPA. I got some seals for my John Deer skidloader that look close to that from them.

jaybee · September 17, 2005, 04:48:03 PM

Or try a bearing house. Most metro areas have at least one and there has to be one at least here and there in the 'outlying' areas as well.

rooster · September 17, 2005, 04:58:38 PM

That last diget looks like a 5 to me!

1FATGMC · September 17, 2005, 05:12:33 PM

Quote from: "rooster"That last diget looks like a 5 to me!

Thanks for the help guys, but I think he has tried most of those options, but I'll check with him Monday.

The last digit is a 6 for sure. It is a little damaged there, but I looked at it with a magnifying glass and it is a 6.

c ya, Sum

Carps · September 17, 2005, 05:59:44 PM

Sounds to me like another good reaon to turn it into a hot rod.

Have you tried soemwhere like Sacramento Vintagee Ford? Most of the Ford specialist parts guys like them, carry an incredible range of old seals nd bearings. Probably not cheap, but when they are the only ones carrying them, what can a restorer do?

GPster · September 17, 2005, 06:15:32 PM

Quote from: "1FATGMC"
Quote from: "rooster"That last diget looks like a 5 to me!
The last digit is a 6 for sure. It is a little damaged there, but I looked at it with a magnifying glass and it is a 6.c ya, Sum

Just feel a need to meddle. When you find a parts vendor also go with the diameter of the opening where the seal fits and also the diameter of the axle where the seal rides. Might also figure the diameters in milimeters because some bearing/seal sizes might not be listed in inches. Might also pull the seal from the other side taking special care to pry on it somewhere other than where the numbers are. Does it actually need two sets of bearings? Maybe just a good bearin on the outside that's pre-lubed and double sealed? GPster

kb426 · September 17, 2005, 06:40:22 PM

If the new bearing is double sealed, how is grease from the differential going to get past it? Sounds to me like the problem is solved. Unless I don't understand everything.

1FATGMC · September 17, 2005, 06:57:13 PM

Quote from: "kb426"If the new bearing is double sealed, how is grease from the differential going to get past it? Sounds to me like the problem is solved. Unless I don't understand everything.

I'm hoping that is the case, but until I see it I don't know. This guy is not a car guy at all. Just bought and drives the car some.

Quote from: "Joe"Might also pull the seal from the other side taking special care to pry on it somewhere other than where the numbers are.

Joe unfortunately this is the seal from the "other side". He didn't do a very good job of "carefully removing" it :cry: . That is why he needs two of them now. I can read the numbers fine though.

c ya, Sum

rooster · September 17, 2005, 08:00:49 PM

Quote from: "1FATGMC"
Quote from: "rooster"That last diget looks like a 5 to me!

Thanks for the help guys, but I think he has tried most of those options, but I'll check with him Monday.

The last digit is a 6 for sure. It is a little damaged there, but I looked at it with a magnifying glass and it is a 6.

c ya, Sum

I found a listing for victor seal Here:

http://12.105.77.22/EB/index.isc?loc=disp_big&group=Seals%20Oil-Grease&mfg=National%20Oil%20Seals%20Master%20Interchange&section=155-155&section_name=&image=155

on page 155 in the second colume at the bottem! None listed with a 6 but there is one with a five.

exsedan · September 17, 2005, 10:32:20 PM

Hey Sum,

Give these guys a call:

KAMAN Industrial Technologies
490 E Butler
Flagstaff, AZ 86001
1.928.774.7159

They have been able to match up anyting I have thrown their way. Been doing some redesign and rework on a Massey Ferguson tractor and they have come thru in all cases so far.

Later........jb EXSEDAN

enjenjo · September 18, 2005, 09:00:51 PM

Most seals can be replaced with new numbers using OD, ID. Give me the seal bore, and shaft diameter, and I'll see what I can do.

1FATGMC · September 20, 2005, 08:31:05 PM

Quote from: "enjenjo"Most seals can be replaced with new numbers using OD, ID. Give me the seal bore, and shaft diameter, and I'll see what I can do.

Thanks Frank and everyone else. I'd better wait until I get over there in a couple weeks to get measurements.

Meanwhile I'll get him this info and let him see if he can find a replacement.

Thanks, Sum

1FATGMC · October 04, 2005, 08:52:35 PM

Just a follow-up on the seal situation. I got to look at the car over the weekend and the way the new double sided sealed bearings go into the rearend housing should do away with the need for a seperate seal.

Also I couldn't belive the condition of the car ('32 chevy sedan). It is all original as far as I can tell (well it does have an inline fuel filter). It belonged to the family of the guy's wife and he said it took 17 years to talk them into selling it to them. It was stored in a barn forever. No dents (couple little dings) and original paint.

He said when he got it it wouldn't turn over. He pulled the plugs and squirted Marvel Oil in the cylinders and every couple days would try and rock the car in gear. Finally it turned over. He drives the car to town 12 miles or so every once in a while. He never pulled the head or anything.

It is one car that even I wouldn't make a street rod out of. I forgot to take pictures. Maybe someday. He said to thank you guys for the help and suggestions.

c ya, Sum