1951 F16

kb426 · September 18, 2021, 09:53:35 PM

No 4.6 parts at all. Everything I have is on the 2 engines in the 51 and the 72.

enjenjo · September 18, 2021, 11:24:29 PM

No problem. He can probably find one locally.

kb426 · September 19, 2021, 06:47:32 PM

O&S plodded along today. I started off by filling the gas filler opening. I filled a 1" hole where an antennae was. I filled in the 3 holes that were on the lower side of the panel at the front of the hood. I need to decide what hood latch I'm going to use now. Other than that, it's ready for bondo. I filled the center depression on the lower valance and took the depressions out of the turn signal mounting area. I'm not positive what I will use for turn signals but the originals aren't on the list.

kb426 · September 20, 2021, 06:34:08 PM

O&S only got a few hours in today. The bed is removed for body and paint. I worked on the roll pan some. I bent a lip behind the tag area to provide some stiffness. It's ready for a little bondo and primer. I spot welded some nuts on the inside of the rear sill to bolt the tail gate to. No more long bolts through the sill. Their purpose was to hold a tail light bracket on which I don't need.

kb426 · September 21, 2021, 06:20:30 PM

O&S crossed some more work off the list. The running boards have had dent removal and crack repair completed. They need media blasting next. I have the easy half of the hood latch completed. The original are was cut out and filled. The lower part is under the plate, making it much stronger than being on top with 4 - 3/16" bolts holding it on.

idrivejunk · September 21, 2021, 08:23:05 PM

Smooth move on the latch. As long as the pin can reach it, thats a no brainer.

I am inspired by you doing that.

Those long bolts through stake pockets are just, well... a good thing to be shed of, I tellya whut.

I can hardly track the blur that is retired guy speed. I'm reckoning that you have a weather related, lady parks in garage type goal in mind.

One vote for park/signals in grille slots.

What I actually came to say is that a brand new mental picture, fairly complete, of a paint job for you... well actually two... hatched but one is peeping at me much louder. For once I'll be brief. No idea if these have potential.

Black (feel free to substitute colors) truck, white panel on roof's top and rear (ask how). Grey grille. White panel on gate, grey outline. White panel (stripe) on hood center rib, starting where flat hood begins and ending between cowl vent and w/shield. Bold, but not too... white/ grey checkered stripe two squares tall, on boards in cab shadow and on valance and pan but not wrapped around.

FWIW, when I picture an F bed with glossy black rails, pockets, and fenders but with bedsides satin in and out... thats kinda neat.

Anyway, the one that grabbed me and probably already blipped our radars is Grabber blue. Or Gulf. But same treatment as above, but: No checkerboard, no white roof. Still grey grille but maybe silver instead. Just black stripe down hood top only, a blackout area on the gate, the GT stripe if you want too. On boards, nose, and tail as above. Stop short of a Maverick emblem

I just like that one. It seems like a fit. An injection of the era vibe that I get from you as wanting to convey. The sorta cop colors one would be more like an indoor show feel as opposed to the bad fast and rode hard, grasshoppers in it's teeth type raceway gate vibe. I dunno. Forgot I was here to maintain redundancy on my own thread.

kb426 · September 21, 2021, 09:47:45 PM

Interesting thoughts, Matt. White and gray would be good. Grabber blue would be too dark of blue for me. The lighter blue has crossed my mind several times. About every 3 days I think of a different color. LOL. Fat fender vehicles are very color sensitive to me. That's one of the reason's I haven't made up my mind. I have looked at google pics at least 4 times and didn't see anything that was in my price and skill range that got me going. With age, this has gotten a little more difficult. The only decision I feel fairly confident is that it will have a black and white interior because of compatibility with several options.

idrivejunk · September 22, 2021, 01:29:25 PM

"Color sensitive" is a new term on me. Sounds like one I should try to understand. Can you give me a nutshell example or something?

The blue found on Mavericks seems like a medium shade to me. We may not be thinking of same one.

Both Chevelles I had were white and black stock interiors. I liked the look but auto interior contact surfaces oughtn't be white. Says the guy who eats mostly in his car.

kb426 · September 22, 2021, 06:53:11 PM

Matt you are correct with the Ford grabber blue. It's just darker than the gulf color. Color sensitive to me is how a color can change a vehicle completely. Case in point: my friends 56 gmc was green from the factory. It's painted a plain red. It became short and stubby after being long and lean in green. 32 ford highboys are a slender vehicle. The colors don't change the way I perceive the overall dimensions of the vehicle very much. Large and shapely bodies seem to respond to color changes more than sleek or smaller vehicles do to me. Eventually, this is a personal thought so I may be the only one that thinks like this.

O&S started the day off by removing the nails that hold the hood belting on the top of the cowl. I beat the depressions up as good as I could without being able to dollie the other side. (arms not long enough) I scraped tar off the firewall after that. The "deluxe" cab is causing me grief.

I thought I would try some holiness after that. After filling 67 holes in the cowl and firewall, I'm back to unholy.

idrivejunk · September 22, 2021, 08:02:09 PM

Thats a fine example and insightful observation, Bill. When I use the term "visual weight" thats akin to your concept. I'd venture that what you describe would be more dependent upon color value than hue. I mean is it mostly about light or darkness or the color itself? Or had you thought of it that way. Sorry and thanks.

My banter/ retort observation is that on almost anything in the world, contrast is attractive. Example: Raised solid white letter tires are more fun to look at than blackwalls, regardless of them having gone out of style alongside cattle rustling.

enjenjo · September 22, 2021, 10:47:13 PM

What! Cattle rustling has gone out of style? How come I wasn't told. Now I to find something else to do in my spare time.

chimp koose · September 22, 2021, 11:32:33 PM

That comment about colour changing the look of the size of a vehicle is so true . When I went from plumb crazy purple to a bright yellow my front engine dragster (full body) looked longer. Jeez I just had a thought ... maybe I should ditch my purple underwear

kb426 · September 23, 2021, 06:50:59 PM

C.K., that drew a smile.

Welcome to the O&S fun park! I started the day with motivation to remove the rest of the factory tar- sound deadener material. Several hours later I was successful. I used a 4" razor scraper. After that, I moved to rusty door parts. Boy was that fun.

Only 2 bolts twisted off. After that, I removed both doors. The best part of this story is about a tool. A few years ago, Eastwood released a .401 shank screwdriver that you put in an impact hammer. I bought one and have used it a little with success. The 1st time I used it, I plugged it into 120lbs. of line pressure and removed tail gate bolts from a 76 Ford pickup. When I was putting it up, I was using the original package and read that they recommended 40 or 50 lbs. of pressure. It thought about that and decided that you could bend the sheet metal with too much pressure. Today i have the regulator set at 50 lbs. It breaks the top 6 bolts loose and 1 of the bottom. I come back a little later and get 1 more bottom bolt loose. I beat on them some more and nothing happens. My options are heat, drilling the centers out of the bolts or more pressure. I turn the regulator up to 90 lbs. and get all of them broke loose. That tool isn't much money and has been very useful for breaking hinge bolts loose. Most are phillips head and easy to mess up.

idrivejunk · September 23, 2021, 07:43:22 PM

You musta et yer wheaties this morning.

Heap big motivation shown and the brown bottom disease don't look too bad. Cab, not too shab.

Resist any spontaneous impulses to manipulate that brace. Unless...

** coughbearclawsahem ****

If you wish to ditch the pesky squares... no, not us... the hinges

I know a guy willing to bet you could give those the old shave-ola in a day. One hung anyway. And that is unrelated to any above comments about purple. Which I feel packs a great deal of visual weight.

Aww, I'm all out of fun park tickets and wound up on cotton candy. Time to go.

kb426 · September 24, 2021, 06:31:25 PM

O&S had a lite day. There was some cleaning on the doors and cab. The seams on the cab where the cowl and sides meet, the side and the top and the area right at the door latch that cracks with use were all welded. The driver's door had suffered a latch failure at some point and the owner torched out an area to get to the latch. I trimmed that back and got started cutting out rust. I found some on the bottom of the door that I wasn't expecting.

There is a pretty good sized dent on the lower inside of the right door that I started working on. Mostly ugly stuff. I have washed that cab several times and I'm surprised at how much dust I removed today.