51 Ford

[idrivejunk]

Well, around some folks it is safe to assume that you'll get at least what you pay for. Some, not so much. F1 man is safe as a badger in a barrel full of cottonmouths. Ever since I been here, we order Rage Gold. That was my favorite. But through the years, it never fails...

Order gallons of Rage Gold, store brings half that and half Rage Extreme, which is the top rung and most popular. With people who order a gallon at a time. I can't explain the persistance of that issue, beyond my control. But I always sent the Extreme back. If a guy runs out and goes for that last gallon, sees label and asks no questions...

:?    :?:  I just work here  But what you see is an "accidental upgrade" and Extreme is loved by everyone as far as I know, web or shop. Gold is a few bucks cheaper and mighty fine. I bet I spread a hundred cans in my time.

At first I thought he was cocktailing with glaze coat. Nope.

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Aw heck, I almost forgot. :oops:  About the aversion to bondo and/or rust pics.  Barfbags and what not. Part of bodywork though. Its all the Rage. And the badger just comes out of the barrel fat.



I am known to present too many choices for some, so I simplified by just trimming and installing the OE plastic fender liner out back. No looking back now!



Painter will probably start on the fiberglass this-n-that around the 250 tomorrow. I gotta do that ^ other liner yet, and get all fasteners in and gate strut cover on like I did this side. If theres time left I will see about those L brackets, maybe replacing the air baffle in back of fender. Guessing that puts me back welding hood hinge brackets on the F1. :?

[idrivejunk]

I've seen these trucks without running boards several times. I think it makes the fenders look way too fat. If I was to put some kind of panel, I would want it close to the edge of the cab but parallel to the frame. I would think it would need to have the same bottom height of the fenders so the visual line from front to rear was the same. If it followed the rake of the truck, it would make sense to me. I'm not adverse to using mixed year components. The major part of this truck is the outline of the front end and the cab. Everything else can compliment or detract. The shape of the front fender is what dictates so much of the look to me. I liked the idea of panel truck quarters for bed sides. When I started out with the white 51, I was going to paint it the same green as the last gen of bullitt. I noticed that the only time it looks right is in the sunlight and clean. That's common for all darker colors with pearl and metallic in the formulation. I walked away from that. One of my ideas was to paint the truck as if it was part of the Gulfpride racing team as a support vehicle. I was concerned about aligning all the paint areas when completed properly. Remember that I 'm half blind. Before I sold the 32, I had planned on redoing the truck. After 11 years, it was beat up. I had purchased 2 gallons of the same green for the repaint. That is a possible also. I have a formulation that one of the members from Pro-Touring was kind enough to provide that is a cross from candy red and brandywine also. It's a single stage with clear that I think I could do. It was also real expensive in my world. So, the bottom line is there isn't a clear choice at this point.
For the rest of the forum members, if this is boring you to sleep, I apologize.

I read this a second time a half hour ago and had much better absorbency.    After five minutes with interweb and another five with tracing paper then five to post... I have these IDJ-y inputs:

Gulfpride tribute I would "get" but those colors would be lost on youngers. You'd have to nail those colors to start and whew without having seen that theme as a young one... I dunno. Although blue and orange sit opposite on the color wheel making them "complimentary" to one another, off-track that combo might not be as handsome today as it was when pastels were the rage. I do like the race team thing, although I'd rather represent the truck as being bad boy enough to stand-in for the sports car if need be.

Go ahead and shake the green, see if it is viable.

No negative vibes on my end I swear, but I qwik traced a panel truck. I was excited because it was sounding and pics were looking like neato as Frito Bandito. As I began and lopped the roof off, I went uh oh. Ack! A vision of T100 longbed flashed across my view. Drew the truck roof on. Aw, maaan. Drew the bed gap. Dang. Nope, IMHO thats a might as well break pursuit. Rats, I was already thinking of how to do it too.

It just... from a front 3/4 view the look falls on it's face. That integrated fender is the cat's lingerie from the side but the deep shadowy expected abyss in front of the rear fender is missing and to me somehow that upsets the truck beauty. At least on light colors as hinted at. Same thing would be a factor if using the 10th gen F150 sides over 51 fenders but to a much lesser degree and pretty much no matter what you did or how nice, stranger eyes will read it as molded in bondo at the running board intersection. I believe retaining the abyss is the ticket. The F150 sides thing retains that angled bed rail and visible stake pockets and hence may pull off that look better but a slab side really snags my eyeball. My mention of a rocker thing remains unexplored but I think it would have to be a little sticky-outy liiiike... oh, PT Cruiser is all I can think of at the moment.

Anyhow-

Viewed at an angle, the alteration of having panel truck shape at rear does not hurt what I'm calling truck beauty as much as I thought it might, but it does. I think you said something about the slant maybe and yeah naw that doesn't help IMO. Not terrible. But front of rear fender area gets hinky. I bet you can picture what I am "seeing" there. No time to illustrate currently but those were my knee-*-type reactions and I just shoot from the hip. Like Marshall Dillon whose gun has no trigger but ain't broke.

Make that 15 to post.  

Picture it!    I am wrong plenty, no worries if we don't jive. But if you do go for the rough-house, screens-on-headlights type retro track truck vibe I will probably mention the thought I had about somehow using the sorta winged top rear roof section from a sixties truck. Its like a slicked-back cowlick of sorts. Racy in the right context. I thought it might go well as Ford used it, or as a visor, or tailgate top.

Go have your fun and may your cuts all be precise sir.

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I see masking paper  



Seal works good and theres plenty for end pieces all around. Ended up using six bolts per bedside and the rest is push clips.

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Welding again  

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Where hinges bolt to hood

[kb426]

We're upside down.

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Its a topsy turvy world. F1 man will be at the shop first thing. Hope he knows I have been working on something else.

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He did. Heres what I did worthy of a pic. Moved folded hood edges at back of vertical section, to line scribed while hood was on. This one is a work in progress. Here in these corners the hood skin just folds onto itself-



The did side-






Cab in primer-






This here is just lookin good, thats all. Nice gaps.





Pic of the year, so far-

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[jaybee]

That TA is going to be gorgeous. Love the blue.

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We shop hacks were casting votes and speculating about a hood bird yesterday. Thats lake something blue off a late Corvette. Blue and Pontiac are my first choices so I sure dig those things about it.  Chevrolet and black being my second choices, and manual first on trans... it does not appear to leave much to be desired however I did wrinkle my nose at wheel choice. As always.    I would like to call attention to those gaps. That man in the next stall, who I have no nickname for yet, does fine work.  

I have developing  F-1 and 6 thoughts covered and simmering on a medium burner. Should start to smell anytime now.

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I never cared for the hood bird. Not even when I was exactly the kid who was supposed to aspire to those cars. The wheels look like the wheels on every other Pro Touring car these day. Take that for good and bad, it's like Centerlines on a Pro Street car from the 1970s.

I love a good blue and am very partial to blue cars. Here's one I really like. Never mind the car, it's called Aqua Blue Clearcoat Metallic, Ford paint code TH at least on the focus. No color works on every car but I'd love to get a Maverick and paint it that color.

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How about this one?

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:evil:

Bitten by lost post again :oops: Lets see if I can keep it shallow enough.

I should probably be thankful. This post can just serve as a grave marker for thoughts not heard. Shaker without bird gets the negative respone buzzer. Formula Then there was a modern product range rant-ette and a dejected statement about pearl colors and theres your unembellished version.

FWIW, Frank I made a half effort to investigate potential paths back to a keyboard in the physical realm. Became sidetracked hunting for the magnifying glass to read the charger body. Found it later next to the carb project lol. Did not find the keyboard that goes on this rig either, yet. But there was a thing I forgot during our talk when you mentioned patch cables during the file transfer explanation... the adapter is a thing, if it goes in empty the phone still reacts. Patch cables were of course the first thing tried. Don't work that way. When I first started foruming I used a USB card reader with SD camera card. Eventually OS updates made the device invalid and boy that snowball hasn't stopped rolling since.

Mint Girl Scout cookies are an instant sale to me, but computer cookies have just always been a no so at least its me shooting my own foot. This was supposed to be art time anyway, weekend seemed like all chores. Now to hit post and hope, hurrying!