60 Biscayne

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idrivejunk

Guys if you look closely at this previous pic, you can see some rat poison. The little green chunks. I have never used it so did not recognize it as that. Someone sometime had thrown a double handful inside the decklid then sealed every rodent-sized hole in the deck lid shell with whatever foam chunks they had on hand. I eat and smoke in my stall and we only have one bathroom so sometimes I don't have an opportunity to wash up first. There was also a pocket of a beige powder inside the lid and it got all over me today. Friday and Saturday my health was scaring me (I cut this open last week and have blown crud out of it daily, and picked out a lot of pellets with tools and fingers) and I've felt bad all weekend and week but not in a familiar way. May have got some poison in me. MSDSs say only "not applicable" under inhalation but it may apply here. This is classic Matt, hurt but not in a visible or believable way. Story of my life.



I patched the lid shell today and began making the skin one. In the center rear of the lid. No pics, camera nap but I've chopped straight across at the upper silver line in the above pic. Just used posterboard to mock it up then the brake to bend the patches. Fitting shell patch to car now, before patching skin. There was no option but to leave the folded flange as my patch making guide and cut the rest away. Flange is gone now too. I'm satisfied with it so far. Thanks for the encouragement.

Chimp, I just used my practical experience in thermal dynamics to not weld too fast. Its the paint that makes gaps change ("paint draw"). Looks like it still fits :wink:

Bob, O tolerated elder,  :lol:  you're probably right about the blaster.  :idea: I can't say the amperage but I can say where the dial is set. Luckily, having been blasted, the vast majority of pits that exist are still solid. I checked with a burr instead of pick, to be sure. Any salvage lid is going to have similar rot and cost a week's pay. My method replaces skin and shell sections all the way to the edge so my part will be clean as a whistle there.

bc, yep it do require effort to make posts that can take the mystery out of bodywork. Thanks. :)

purplepickup, thank you sir. I think the variety trumps what you might find in a classroom but its value as an educational tool is questionable. I horseplay. The work is just however it turns out I reckon. Glad you can use the visuals.

KB, the trash can is here for ya. I use profanity in every sentence myself. You'd be doing me a favor to share the unspoken whatever that you're holding. I sincerely have no idea what it is but know you've been holding it in a long time. Let me have it but leave the boss out. Thats sacred ground, man. Just do your thing as you see fit. No worries.
Matt

UGLY OLDS

I got an idea ...( Maybe) ..When you open up a panel & see stuff like that you don't recognise, maybe suck it out with a shop vac before hitting it with the air hose ..  :idea:    It maybe will keep it somewhat contained & less harmful to you & the other guys ... :?:

 After all ..If something happens to you, who we gonna have learn us  :shock:  :?:  :?:

Bob... :wink:
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idrivejunk

I usually do vac, while blowing. Wasn't much place to get in with a vac so I didn't.

Missed seeing PMs, ain't read em yet. Stand by for replies on them. Thanks.
Matt

58 Yeoman

When I saw that green stuff, I thought it was bondo.

You do great work on what you have to work with.
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idrivejunk

Quote from: "58 Yeoman"When I saw that green stuff, I thought it was bondo.

You do great work on what you have to work with.

Thanks again, Phil.  :)  Messes are my specialty. The Chevelle was supposed to be an easier job after the 33 but I took too long and missed that "break". I thought the green was mud with blue hardener that got pushed through holes, and that the pink was same but with red hardener. I was wrong. The pink stuff was way harder than plain mud and I don't know what it was. I could just have a cold or something else. Bed is gonna feel good tonight  :-}
Matt

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chimp koose

That green stuff you found could be WARFARIN  (rat poison ) it is also prescribed as a blood thinner. I put the stuff all over my garage in places the critters might crawl . The warfarin pellets look much like alfalfa pellets and are somewhat porous . They would look different than green bondo I think . Quite the wake up call on old cars as I would not have even dreamt of expecting to see that stuff even though it quite likely could be there . Reminds me of the first time I was looking at vintage cars in a guys back lot in California years ago . He pulls back a tarp from over a car and then jumps back . I have no clue why until he shows me . A snake was there , looked like a rattler but was a gopher snake . Where I am from , you may see a garter snake once in a while but never anything poisonous .

idrivejunk

Yeah this stuff has yellow chunks in it if you look close. I didn't pay any attention but as we all know, hindsight is 20/20  :oops:  :roll:

Feels like I'm running on four flats today but I did take a few pics. Despite a formidable array of distractions, I managed to reach a satisfactory point with the cursed trunk lid.



This is the skin patch. it will meet the old skin at that top silver line from yesterday's picture once its trimmed. Right where both are straight across just below the lock. I screwed the skin patch on with slotted holes so I could fine- tune it side-to-side for gap. Both patches are first attempts and usable. With the bottom flange not folded over yet, of course the lid won't set down the last couple millimeters  :arrow:













I'll get the edges all ready for final folding with it screwed on, then I'll remove the patch and zap up the screw holes then apply coatings. Then I'll fold the edges, then I'll trim the top seam and weld that. The inner patch was quite a piece of work, too. But having faith in my templates and bending it into exact position after welding was how that had to work. I thought its fairly spiff, or should be when done.









Matt

idrivejunk

Hope your weekend was refreshing  :)

Heres the templates I used in the making of my patches. Scissor Aided Design for the win :!:



First thing I did was kinda rearrange my work area. Fount myself all bound up in a corner so I moved stuff for elbow room. Feeling much more rested and organized, I took my roughed-in lid skin patch back off and had a go at beautification of both pieces so I could tighten up this rough sketch of a patch. :arrow:















Pssst psst says Mr Grey... by the way I made a long rectangle of thicker steel to lay inside the bottom lip of the skin patch, that fit just right so I could slide it along inside the fold line and dolly the waviness away somewhat before marrying the two parts.











Did you see the little patch strips waaay up inside, on the shell? Patch gap ended up big there so I put scraps over the gaps and zapped from the back. With it inverted on a parts stand, like here-







Once I began trying to fold the lip tight, I realized I'd get nowhere with it on the car. So I got that skin bent around like I wanted and we put the lid back on. I remembered mentioning the front edge of the decklid and y'all's valid concerns about warpage there. Well, here is that. I eyeballed it and wasn't sure if it needed those dips or not. I am confident that I can easily even out that edge. Did some hammering on it already, it can take it.



Moving right along  :-}  Oooh, hey, thats starting to look like something  :shock:  :arrow:











I see gaps, hurry up and tack that baby-











Hot diggity, only had one spot where it went just a little wild. I had to put some photogenic sandscratches on it and blaze a trail, it was 5. By the way, if you're tallying these bananas... Friday is only 5 hours, I work around 35 a week, and no not every hour is necessarily billed as one. Just so's ya know  :)  Anyhow, so far so good-










Matt

chris spokes

nice work matt  8)  8)
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papastoyss

Man, that's some nice work." Parts, we don't need no stinkin parts, "
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idrivejunk

Thank you kindly, guys.  :D  

I am about to cull thru 81 pics of today's process, you may also enjoy these as well.  The lid war is over but it hasn't surrendered yet. Stand by for the back side story  :arrow:
Matt

idrivejunk

First let's tiptoe thru the hood...



















That big dink in the middle don't bother me as much as the rust all the way across the front. And that doesn't bother me as much as the hood shell all the way across the front.  :roll:  Looks like the trunk lid was just practice! Seriously I think its almost all at the front edge. But it goes back like 3" on the inner. Yippie-i-yo.

Blah blah another day of trunk lid. Almost dooonnneee...

Soft spot appeared in the skin here where the inner was rotted while I was persuading the gaps with a dead blow.











Thats a fair semblance of a gap. How's the other side?



Alright then. Next level of refinements-






















OK! We abaut ready to flip her over and make it official?

:arrow:  :arrow:  :arrow:
Matt

idrivejunk

How 'bout let's yes... do that.


























Now we're on the home stretch! Last patch that I know of on this... um... barflid.




Should be a snap. I also flattened out the wavys on the front edge of the lid but have not re-checked that. Should be much better.
Matt

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