60 Biscayne

[idrivejunk]

Yessir. Good-bye barflid! Whew.







I've got my hood fix loosely planned. The mud men have the worst fender done and the bad door is started on.

[idrivejunk]

Ah    One pic  

Ready to start welding up the front hood skin patches. Theres another small one needed out at one front corner on the top face so I'll probably get that one first or while tacking this. I'll do the inner after the skin so that the shell can serve as a reference for the correct downward angle of the flange. So the patch shown won't be plug welded until the metal behind it is new. Just the butted seam is what I'm after first. The scrap of old front flange there where the cutoff wheel is jammed in, is also a reference. For height.

[kb426]

In some ways, the best part of watching this is advertising for your shop. We've all heard paint jail stories. The flow of work is pretty steady and well documented. Your whole bunch is to be commended on that fact.

[idrivejunk]

We recieve beatings if we don't take pics and notes    

[idrivejunk]

In some ways, the best part of watching this is advertising for your shop. We've all heard paint jail stories. The flow of work is pretty steady and well documented. Your whole bunch is to be commended on that fact.

Whoa up on the advertising bit though, for the record thats not my intent and I do try to keep anything that would indicate what shop this is out of my posts. Nobody ever asks. Just being clear, no foul.  

[chimp koose]

Advertising was probably the wrong term , DEMONSTRATING proper shop practices as far as documenting and billing of services may be a better way to say it . Paint jail , is a term I learned from the internet but it goes well to describe what happens to many a project car . I am sure we have all known someone to have rescued a vehicle from a body shop when months or years have passed with no progress . This can sometimes be due to a shop having crash experience but little or no restoration experience and learning about the difference with a customer car .When the actual amount of labor to do it right becomes evident , they realise a quote gone wrong and work ceases on a no win job unless they need work for slow times .  Where I am from there are many shops that flat out refuse rust repair work as it is too difficult/expensive to do  while pound putty paint , is more profitable /predictable . I think the picture documentation is a very worthwhile effort as it lets the customer know exactly what was encountered and how it was repaired . When selling a vehicle it would be a good stack of pictures to show a prospective buyer as it would let them know the extent and methods of rust removal accomplished on the car . I bet the 33 owner would have backed out of his purchase if he had seen detail on the type of repair done to the car before he bought it .The two Camaro owners OBVIOUSLY know there is no rust left on their cars as would any prospective buyer . Your boss should be commended for insisting on this documentation as it would be important to help with explaining the shop charges to customers as well as being able to help sell a car later or deal with an insurance value if that should need doing . I am probably the worst person for taking no pictures of what I  fabricate as it seems as though what I do is too logical to have to explain . But I am coming to that conclusion as someone who has done this type of work all my life , when someone with no experience would have no idea of the time , detail or engineering involved . At some time in the future I would like to start doing builds for others as a friend of mine has suggested we should ,and has lined up a few interesting builds for us to do . Those people have been told we could start in a couple of years and they are willing to wait . What I have learned from your body work threads has not only been about panel repair , but proper documentation of the work being done .I see a good business practice model that could eliminate customer concerns toward billing .Thanks for the lesson !

[idrivejunk]

Chimp, perhaps you get it. Thanks for paying attention.

[UGLY OLDS]

I agree with Chimp^^^^^    He done said it good ...  

Besides ...We're ALL still learnin' stuff from your photos & explanations ...  

 In my next life, I plan to live down by KB ...Where things don't rus.....Never Mind ...

Bob...

[chimp koose]

IDJ , the way you present your work , you could make a how to book . Ugly Olds and I could lend you our cars to fix for free as subject matter for the book ! We only want to help ! Let me know when you want to start . Bob will have to come up with a plausible excuse to give to KB as he has been wanting to start on our cars for some time now! Its only fair Bob , I cant be expected to make ALL the arrangements . Maybe you could do a chapter on metalflake

[Carnut]

Yep,I can see it now, fixing one side for free and photographing for documentation and leaving the other side as is to show and demonstrate the difference before and after.

[idrivejunk]

Guys thanks again... but I'm sick as a dog. I put two hours on that hood today but need to go collapse. Catch u on the flipside

[UGLY OLDS]

IDJ , the way you present your work , you could make a how to book . Ugly Olds and I could lend you our cars to fix for free as subject matter for the book ! We only want to help ! Let me know when you want to start . Bob will have to come up with a plausible excuse to give to KB as he has been wanting to start on our cars for some time now! Its only fair Bob , I cant be expected to make ALL the arrangements . Maybe you could do a chapter on metalflake

 Now Chimp ...  We have discussed this before .....  You are building a "T".......   I am building an "A"...    A comes before T is most of the alphabets that I am aware of ....Therefore...  My fenders will go to KB or Matt BEFORE yours    :!:  It's the alphabetical way    
 Next ... With the most generous offer we have going with KB for our repairs, don't you think that he should receive royalties or something from this book  :?:
 After all..  We should help line his pockets a little bit ... :?  Maybe Matt will let him write the forward or something  :?:  Co-Author  :?:   Able Assistant  :?:    Loyal sidekick maybe  :?:  :?:      

 As far as the metalflake chapter, I have an idea  :!:     Start NOW saving all the chips & swarf from your machining class's   :!:
At the correct time after final paint application, we can sprinkle them into the paint to achieve  3D metalflake   :!:  :!:  

 Ya think it will catch on  :?:   Lets see....For orange we turn some brass....For silver we turn some regular steel...For blue we just turn the steel LOTS faster... Is it time for afternoon meds yet  :?:  

Bob..

[idrivejunk]

Bob, come by here with some of those meds willya? I am in paiiiiin!

[UGLY OLDS]

Bob, come by here with some of those meds willya? I am in paiiiiin!

 Trust me Matt....With my meds, you don't even THINK about pain....      
 It makes life more about seeing the little birdies, stars, the occasional UFO...   :?
 You are finally able to truly understand the story line in cartoons .....  :oops:    

Bob..

[idrivejunk]

Uh-oh, I follow cartoons fairly fluently  :oops:

I'm in pretty bad shape over here. Weak in mind and body. Keep up the fun stuff while I endure whatever this is, I can't hang. Friday I couldn't even hold the welder or camera still, too puny. Sucks being your own chick at times like this.