33 Ford coupe bodywork and paint

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idrivejunk

#75
March 17, 2017, 07:05:42 PM
Whenever I can feel a defect while blocking, but can't visually nail down where it is... y'know what I do? Close my eyes. Then I can put my finger right on it.  :idea: So I believe you 'uns speak the truth.  :-o

OK, here are the pics intended for yesterday-  8)







Matt

idrivejunk

#76
March 17, 2017, 07:38:16 PM
Here are some under different light. Yeah I bet it does go pop in the sunlight. Colors that make slab-sided modern cars look OK can make round stuff look like jewelry, man.  8)  We'll have to sear our retinas later  :wink:  but have a walkaround-










My critical eye isn't satisfied. I see prep flaws. Straight line ditches around body lines, flat spots in rounded areas, rough stuff in jambs. I'll have to get used to this not having control of the contours and stuff, doing mostly just metal work now. But seriously, I know I am overly critical ("pretty picky" I am called). It will probably be nothing short of magnificent after a buff job, but I'll have "coulda done better" in my mind. Thats just me. I don't want perfect stuff for myself but don't want anything less in my work.  :roll:

A little rocker panel spray inside the hood tops because... y'know... um it matches the underneath of the car!



Engine didn't have the right shade on it, so...



Polishing of the body starts next week. Big job! Fenders are about ready too  :arrow:

Thanks for following along so far, gents  :)
Matt

kb426

#77
March 17, 2017, 08:24:07 PM
i understand, Matt. :)
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idrivejunk

#78
March 17, 2017, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: "kb426"i understand, Matt. :)

I knew you would, br'er bodyman.  8)  I have had the pleasure of doing almost everything except spray paint on two so far. I reeeally enjoy seeing those two at local shows.
Matt

chimp koose

#79
March 18, 2017, 02:25:14 AM
When I teach kids to check a hand filed radius , I tell them to do the" blind man check ". I show them to feel it without looking at it because your finger sees it better than your eye . I bet those door panels look better when they are hung back on the car . I couldn't see any flaws but the ones I am able to see usually seem to disappear when a panel goes from horizontal to vertical ( if that makes any sense ). Jewelry was the term I was going to use to describe that paint job . Among other things the trunk opening on my T is something I am hoping to nail down this weekend .

kb426

#80
March 18, 2017, 08:57:29 AM
CK, does metalflake nightmares prevent you from sleeping at night? :)
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idrivejunk

#81
March 18, 2017, 12:22:15 PM
The blind man check is a lot like reading distant or small type viewed through a small hole. It's kind of a "hack"" as the young ones say, to focus a sense and get better info from one's body. Several truths I've found are counter intuitive like that. Blocking with a rigid tube is another. People tend to not believe that can work, especially on convex contours, but that's where the technique shines brightest.
Matt

idrivejunk

#82
March 25, 2017, 12:08:51 PM
It dawned on me that the lack of Chevelle and '33 pics from this week may have alarmed some of you. Nothing bad, just little progress to show plus me being sick as a dog this week and struggling to just do my job. Taking pics to post robs time, and some weeks I can't spare that because I just barely fulfill my obligations. This was one of them weeks. That being said-

The 33 body is in the compounding phase now, and thats the first piece being done. 3 fenders are not painted yet... "Not ready." The one hood top side is a disappointment to me so I just don't bust out the camera when I walk past it. If it is used as-is, you'll see it eventually.

Searched the camera and found these which are all I've got except pics of the Biscayne, from this week:




Thats all I have for now. Remember we have lots of other jobs going on, and that your comments and questions are not only valued but also appreciated by me personally. Thanks for being such an encouraging bunch and tolerating my personality.    8)
Matt

kb426

#83
March 25, 2017, 12:16:34 PM
If you have time, I'd like a how to on buffing louvers. I've bypassed that because of less than desired results. :) If there's any way other than by hand, I'd like to know.
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idrivejunk

#84
March 25, 2017, 12:58:37 PM
I guarantee that they are skipped if at all possible by us, too  :-o  Thats a good Q for me to bust over the painter's noggin  :wink:  

I do see the battery powered 3" buffers in use quite a bit over there. Seems to me that those cute li'l wool pads could reach in farther and maybe do a sanded nib area that could then be hand polished. With, of course, an appropriate layering of protective tape covering the edge of the next louver. I promise if I catch him in the act I'll get evidence.   :)
Matt

UGLY OLDS

#85
March 25, 2017, 05:15:48 PM
Put me on the "How to Buff a Louver" list too please ..... :?

 I tried to fill & sand/buff some of the stone chips on the "Ugly Olds" this week ...

 On some of the chips, a "Q-Tip" was the perfect applicator ..... :roll:

 I also found out that we used "beige" primer on that car ... :oops:  :oops:

Bob.. :wink:
1940 Oldsmobile- The "Ugly Olds"
1931 Ford sedan- Retirement project

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idrivejunk

#86
March 25, 2017, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: "UGLY OLDS"Put me on the "How to Buff a Louver" list too please ..... :?

 I tried to fill & sand/buff some of the stone chips on the "Ugly Olds" this week ...

 On some of the chips, a "Q-Tip" was the perfect applicator ..... :roll:

 I also found out that we used "beige" primer on that car ... :oops:  :oops:

Bob.. :wink:

Got you down, check.  :wink:  But I feel like I know what the gunslinger will say- "buff around them unless theres a big problem".

You might be onto something with the swab  :idea:  I need to try that with bondo on some hail-cracked mud pies that may fall off this year. On the purple junk :!:

Is the Olds single stage or did you have to do the hurry up and wait on clear thing? I've heard of getting decent results using air dry clear with scuffnbuff after.  My DD GTP gets so ate up with hood chips it ain't funny but the beauty is that a Sharpie makes them "go away!" until its time for more duplicolor on a matchstick  :roll:  :idea:  :lol:
Matt

UGLY OLDS

#87
March 26, 2017, 12:37:55 PM
QuoteIs the Olds single stage or did you have to do the hurry up and wait on clear thing? I've heard of getting decent results using air dry clear with scuffnbuff after.  My DD GTP gets so ate up with hood chips it ain't funny but the beauty is that a Sharpie makes them "go away!" until its time for more duplicolor on a matchstick  :roll:  :idea:  :lol:
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The Olds is good ol' fashioned Centari.....I amazed all my buddies when I first built the car ....Painted the firewall...Later I painted around all the window openings before installing all the glass stuff...Then later I edged around all the door & trunk openings before painting the body ......Yup..You guessed it ...Three VERY different shades of Blue ...All from the SAME gallon can  :!:  :roll: ..
 My friends told me that I had skills that hadn't surfaced yet... :shock:  :?  :oops:  :oops:  :roll:

 The same thing kinda happened when I painted my Kidd's '37 Dodge .....After the car was finished, Cathy & I had a "Run In" with Bambi..( Or one of her relatives).. Only one fender was damaged so I took the car to a trusted friend for repair & paint to resolve the repair quickly as the Kidd was coming home from Korea soon & planned to drive the car to the west coast for his next duty assignment....  Anyhow, my friend said repairing the fender was not an issue ...   8)  When I asked about matching the paint,  he replied, " No Problem...which panel do you want me to match"  :?:  :?  :shock:  :oops:  :lol:

On my Model A , I plan to use a NEW roller & maybe some of those new foam pads .... :idea:  :idea:

 None of those "Isocrylicides"  for me  :!:

Bob.. :wink:
1940 Oldsmobile- The "Ugly Olds"
1931 Ford sedan- Retirement project

***** First Member of Team Smart*****

idrivejunk

#88
March 26, 2017, 01:04:12 PM
Quote from: "UGLY OLDS"
The Olds is good ol' fashioned Centari.....I amazed all my buddies when I first built the car ....Painted the firewall...Later I painted around all the window openings before installing all the glass stuff...Then later I edged around all the door & trunk openings before painting the body ......Yup..You guessed it ...Three VERY different shades of Blue ...All from the SAME gallon can  :!:  :roll: ..
 My friends told me that I had skills that hadn't surfaced yet... :shock:  :?  :oops:  :oops:  :roll:

 The same thing kinda happened when I painted my Kidd's '37 Dodge .....After the car was finished, Cathy & I had a "Run In" with Bambi..( Or one of her relatives).. Only one fender was damaged so I took the car to a trusted friend for repair & paint to resolve the repair quickly as the Kidd was coming home from Korea soon & planned to drive the car to the west coast for his next duty assignment....  Anyhow, my friend said repairing the fender was not an issue ...   8)  When I asked about matching the paint,  he replied, " No Problem...which panel do you want me to match"  :?:  :?  :shock:  :oops:  :lol:

On my Model A , I plan to use a NEW roller & maybe some of those new foam pads .... :idea:  :idea:

 None of those "Isocrylicides"  for me  :!:

Bob.. :wink:

Wow, can any of you guys calculate the Scrabble score on Bob's word?  :D  That is worthy of note, man. You are a cunning linguist.  :wink:  :lol:

Y'all probably would not believe the quantity of Centari (or Imron and Lucite for that matter) this pup mixed in his life. People did clearcoat it on repairs a lot so I asked that. You wanna know the modern cure for color variation? They call it "zone painting" in paint school speak, and "aw bull" in insurance lingo. Blend it and send it, phooey on prep. You may find comfort in the fact that the very same nolookalike-a scenario was present on that blue '67 truck we did at the shop. I calls 'em Apache paint jobs. Light colors are the devil  :evil:  no matter the car or color. Using a new roller is a step up from Q-tips I reckon though, its a step in the right direction  :-}

When I paint... I choose the paint break at jamb strategy. In my experience, painting jambs first, assembling, then masking jambs to paint the outside is most often the easier battle. Sometimes you get an ugly line on a quarter edge but on that I'm willing to risk the small "dust-in" that I may have to do here and there. Know whut I mean? Almost any shop manager will want to risk the panel to panel variation instead, and paint everything apart. Its a valid approach but I am a color nut from way back and can't stand looking at a mismatch in traffic let alone a show. On stuff I've been involved with, because, y'know, the expectations. But its a home run when it works out with painting apart, so thats a strategy choice.
Matt

idrivejunk

#89
March 27, 2017, 09:24:40 PM
Boys I gua-ron-tee this tub is slicker'n owl snot on a greased glass doorknob but please don't ask how I know. We're about ready for a hitchin'...




Mmm-mmm looka-dat. That painter is smooth ain't he? I surely did inquire about buffing louvers and my suspicions were confirmed...

Don't buff louvers he sez. Had to buff runs out right next to them before but nope. If'n I had some fresh painted louvers to demo on, I'd be game.   :(

Chassis is looking somewhat provocative, not too threatening. I bet its a barrel of fun. Wondering about the blue stuff though  :?


Matt
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