Ford transmission info and engine ID

Old Blue · February 01, 2010, 08:29:15 PM

Here's the deal. I am getting a 1987 351W and C6 out of a F250 truck.

The C6 is physically larger and will be difficult to fit into the confines of my 26 roadsters chassis.

What do I need in the way of parts to remove the C6 and bolt on a C4 ?

Also, where do I look for the engine ID to confirm what I'm gonna buy when we load it up ?

Anyone have the answers ?

Larry

enjenjo · February 01, 2010, 08:44:28 PM

some Ford have the CI cast into the block behind the left head. For most of them you will need the casting number, which is on the side of the block, just above the starter.

To change the trans, you need a Small block C4, and the right kickdown linkage or cable.

Old Blue · February 01, 2010, 10:15:41 PM

Quote from: "enjenjo"some Ford have the CI cast into the block behind the left head. For most of them you will need the casting number, which is on the side of the block, just above the starter.

To change the trans, you need a Small block C4, and the right kickdown linkage or cable.

Is the flex plate and torque converter different for the C4 ?

What will a 351 W casting number read ?

chimp koose · February 01, 2010, 11:31:21 PM

the 351w looks like a 302 except the cyl are longer making the block and intake wider.E for 80's 7 for 7th year makes an E7 prefix on some of the parts. You can expect to see earlier casting #s on some of the parts as well.

Crosley.In.AZ · February 02, 2010, 07:44:59 AM

Quote from: "Old Blue"
Quote from: "enjenjo"some Ford have the CI cast into the block behind the left head. For most of them you will need the casting number, which is on the side of the block, just above the starter.

To change the trans, you need a Small block C4, and the right kickdown linkage or cable.

Is the flex plate and torque converter different for the C4 ?

What will a 351 W casting number read ?

you need the complete C4 set up, converter and bell housing to match the flexplate on the engine.

C6 ans C4 parts do not swap around

Old Blue · February 02, 2010, 08:53:51 AM

Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "Old Blue"
Quote from: "enjenjo"some Ford have the CI cast into the block behind the left head. For most of them you will need the casting number, which is on the side of the block, just above the starter.

To change the trans, you need a Small block C4, and the right kickdown linkage or cable.

Is the flex plate and torque converter different for the C4 ?

What will a 351 W casting number read ?

you need the complete C4 set up, converter and bell housing to match the flexplate on the engine.

C6 ans C4 parts do not swap around

So does that mean I need a different flex plate too ? The C4 will or will not work with the flex plate that came on the 351/C6 ?

Larry.

enjenjo · February 02, 2010, 10:42:25 AM

The flex plate is the same, but every thing else is different.

Old Blue · February 06, 2010, 11:31:23 AM

Just as an update, the 351 turned out to actually be a 460. His buddies had told him it was a 351, and the 351 actually was offered in that year of Ford truck. So was the 460.

So I'm back in the hunt for a 351. I may end up using a mock up motor for the construction phase and save my pennies for one of those neat 385 HP 351 Windsor crate motors from Ford racing. Aluminum heads, roller cam etc etc ...drool

Larry.

GPster · February 06, 2010, 12:32:49 PM

I don't think you can get that type of power (or money) out of that "Baby Hemi" but there are people that just want them for "Looks". Might just put it in a car and then someone from Oz will buy it and ship it home. GPster

Crosley.In.AZ · February 06, 2010, 12:46:02 PM

Quote from: "GPster"I don't think you can get that type of power (or money) out of that "Baby Hemi" but there are people that just want them for "Looks". Might just put it in a car and then someone from Oz will buy it and ship it home. GPster

I wonder if enjenjo is up for another road trip to Calliefornia?

Old Blue · February 06, 2010, 02:44:09 PM

Quote from: "GPster"I don't think you can get that type of power (or money) out of that "Baby Hemi" but there are people that just want them for "Looks". Might just put it in a car and then someone from Oz will buy it and ship it home. GPster

I actually have the baby hemi sold to a fellow down in Calgary. He is building a 354 now and wants the 241 for another project.

So the $500 I'm getting for it will buy me a 4" dropped Magnum axle and something else too.

I really think I'm gonna hold out for the Ford Racing crate motor.

Larry.