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thxx guys "emsjunkie" look forward to your review I'm going to get started building my own also real soon  

hijack this is a neat program that will let you go into your browzer and take out those nasty programs guys here the link to down load it its free http://www.spychecker.com/program/hijackthis.html you dont have to format  the authors web site is there also to show just how to use it its not real hard but you can mess things up with it good luck

My question has anyone here build the english wheel featured on the home page of this site and does it  work ok :?:

Ok first of all guys i use avg free all the time and have had no trouble out it . updates very nice and has gotten many trojans out of my system...and its not in your face like nortan or macfee.....Ok now to remove nortan go to programs and look for the folder that nortan is in and delet that you will need to remove all of the other programs that come with nortans like disk doctor  for they are junk anyway...if this fails I have a program called regcleaner that will take it out just let me know if you need it the website dont offer the free version anymore but i have many copies