my Model A has a blended in visor, this little car has made many, many 1,000 mile trips. A lot of those miles are at highway speeds for a lot of miles. You do not "NEED" a brace, I guess you could add one if it makes you feel better but it is not needed.
This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.
Pages1
#2
Rodder's Roundtable / Thoughts
August 14, 2017, 10:49:59 PM
Yea guys I hear you. I simply don't know how I get in this mess, I also am retired and I have been a car guy all of my life. now I have the time to do the stuff I want to, and cannot find the motivation to get out in the shop.
I mean its not like I don't have plenty to do. two winters ago I built a nice little car. 1931 Ford Model A, I chopped it, built the chassis and got it road ready. my plans for this car all along had for it to be Hemi powered. Trouble was I didn't have a Hemi. I did have a small block setting in the shop that I had swapped some stuff for, so in goes the small block and viola the car is on the road. I have put quite a few miles on this car, but I still wanted a Hemi for it. As luck would have it I find a 392 58 Hemi not to far from me. I go up talk to the guy. You all know this deal--Motor was built 5 or 6 years ago and never used so it just sat. Guy wants a built price for the motor as well, read that a lot. So I do a cursory inspection. I took a bore scope with me and stick it down the spark plug hole and all I see is carbon. So unlike the story of just being rebuilt and never run, it has been run after all. The guy has no receipts for the motor so I assume that it is NOT just rebuilt. I offer him several 100 less for the motor and with no deal head home. Month later guy calls and say he will take my offer. I get it home and rip into it.
This quickly turned into a strange deal. Turns out there was no carbon, not a speck. Don't have a clue what we were seeing in that bore scope. It does have a nice "NEW" set of Jahns pop up pistons. It also has a solid lifter roller cam, another weird thing is the rockers. It does have adjustable rockers on 6 of the cylinders the other two have adjustable push rods. What is up with that? Also those two cylinders with the adjustable pushrods have different roller lifters, they are completely different both in weight and in manufacturing, those four lifters are also obviously new. The pistons have no size markings on them so I "assume" ( don't ever do that) that they are standard and count my blessings. Well I was a little to quick in that counting thing as when I measure the pistons they turn out to be 4.118. For those folks you are not familiar with the early Chrysler hemi 392 they are a 4" bore, meaning that this motor was bored a lot, in checking the block it was in fact 4.120.
I do not have a clue why anyone would bore a block .120, I did have the block sonic tested and much to my surprise it has as much as .225 left in the walls. I don't know a lot about this stuff, but I do know enough to check with folks who do know. And it seems that for a street motor you need a minimum of .180 wall thickness for the thing to live. So for now that motor just sets, maybe one day I will finish it and it will see the road once again.
I did find another 392 though, as a matter of fact I found 3 more 392's and one 354 Hemi. So I am Hemi poor, I got one ready to go. Took it to the machine shop and had it bored .040 and installed a set of Egge pistons, new bearings, new everything. Then I think man these old Hemi's are pretty heavy at 720 lbs. That is a lot of weight for my chopped Model A to haul around without completely rebuilding the suspension. So I go about lightening that Hemi up. These old Hemi's have over a hundred and twenty ponds of cast iron hanging off of the front of them, so I went with all aluminum timing cover crossover and water pump. Then I buy a set of Hot Heads Aluminum heads for it, got that motor down to 520 lbs. Then I get this wild hair to put a blower on the thing. Sometimes I have the sense of a disabled yard rat.
So that means those 10to1 Egge pistons have just got to go. So I order me a set of Ross forged 8to1 pistons and start the build all over again. Get the blower and all of the drive parts in, Ross when I ordered the pistons needed the deck height so back to the machine shop to have the block decked. Finally get all of that done, all the parts setting there in front of me and I flat ran out of gas. For what ever reason I am having the hardest time getting back out in the shop to get this done.
In a way I think I have a little insight into "What" may be going on with me not doing this. I have spent a ton of money, and I mean a TON of money. It will all be worth it when its done and running down the road. But what if all of this very expensive parts and machine work etc. doesn't work. This indecision is just driving me nuts and I think that is keeping me from getting back to it. Maybe this long rant will help me get out of my own * way. Thanks guys...
I mean its not like I don't have plenty to do. two winters ago I built a nice little car. 1931 Ford Model A, I chopped it, built the chassis and got it road ready. my plans for this car all along had for it to be Hemi powered. Trouble was I didn't have a Hemi. I did have a small block setting in the shop that I had swapped some stuff for, so in goes the small block and viola the car is on the road. I have put quite a few miles on this car, but I still wanted a Hemi for it. As luck would have it I find a 392 58 Hemi not to far from me. I go up talk to the guy. You all know this deal--Motor was built 5 or 6 years ago and never used so it just sat. Guy wants a built price for the motor as well, read that a lot. So I do a cursory inspection. I took a bore scope with me and stick it down the spark plug hole and all I see is carbon. So unlike the story of just being rebuilt and never run, it has been run after all. The guy has no receipts for the motor so I assume that it is NOT just rebuilt. I offer him several 100 less for the motor and with no deal head home. Month later guy calls and say he will take my offer. I get it home and rip into it.
This quickly turned into a strange deal. Turns out there was no carbon, not a speck. Don't have a clue what we were seeing in that bore scope. It does have a nice "NEW" set of Jahns pop up pistons. It also has a solid lifter roller cam, another weird thing is the rockers. It does have adjustable rockers on 6 of the cylinders the other two have adjustable push rods. What is up with that? Also those two cylinders with the adjustable pushrods have different roller lifters, they are completely different both in weight and in manufacturing, those four lifters are also obviously new. The pistons have no size markings on them so I "assume" ( don't ever do that) that they are standard and count my blessings. Well I was a little to quick in that counting thing as when I measure the pistons they turn out to be 4.118. For those folks you are not familiar with the early Chrysler hemi 392 they are a 4" bore, meaning that this motor was bored a lot, in checking the block it was in fact 4.120.
I do not have a clue why anyone would bore a block .120, I did have the block sonic tested and much to my surprise it has as much as .225 left in the walls. I don't know a lot about this stuff, but I do know enough to check with folks who do know. And it seems that for a street motor you need a minimum of .180 wall thickness for the thing to live. So for now that motor just sets, maybe one day I will finish it and it will see the road once again.
I did find another 392 though, as a matter of fact I found 3 more 392's and one 354 Hemi. So I am Hemi poor, I got one ready to go. Took it to the machine shop and had it bored .040 and installed a set of Egge pistons, new bearings, new everything. Then I think man these old Hemi's are pretty heavy at 720 lbs. That is a lot of weight for my chopped Model A to haul around without completely rebuilding the suspension. So I go about lightening that Hemi up. These old Hemi's have over a hundred and twenty ponds of cast iron hanging off of the front of them, so I went with all aluminum timing cover crossover and water pump. Then I buy a set of Hot Heads Aluminum heads for it, got that motor down to 520 lbs. Then I get this wild hair to put a blower on the thing. Sometimes I have the sense of a disabled yard rat.
So that means those 10to1 Egge pistons have just got to go. So I order me a set of Ross forged 8to1 pistons and start the build all over again. Get the blower and all of the drive parts in, Ross when I ordered the pistons needed the deck height so back to the machine shop to have the block decked. Finally get all of that done, all the parts setting there in front of me and I flat ran out of gas. For what ever reason I am having the hardest time getting back out in the shop to get this done.
In a way I think I have a little insight into "What" may be going on with me not doing this. I have spent a ton of money, and I mean a TON of money. It will all be worth it when its done and running down the road. But what if all of this very expensive parts and machine work etc. doesn't work. This indecision is just driving me nuts and I think that is keeping me from getting back to it. Maybe this long rant will help me get out of my own * way. Thanks guys...
#3
Rodder's Roundtable / Thoughts
August 14, 2017, 03:34:16 PM
I was somewhat surprised to see I have been a member here on this site for 8 years and only have 3 posts. In looking at those posts it brought back some old memories. I have posted some pictures in those 8 years of a few of my cars, sadly all of those are gone and have been replaced. Some of them I should have kept too. That old Model A coupe had been with me a lot of years, lot of stories from that old car. Why in the world I ever let it get away I will never know. Also I only have fond memories of my 46 Ford Coupe, another one I should have kept.
Today I find myself on the threshold of doing another deal. You see I have this pretty cool little green 1929 Model A tudor that I have had for a couple of years. In those years it has just sat and I have not driven that little car hardly at all. That is a little strange as I usually drive the hell out of my cars. It is a cool little car, great running 351 W and a Tremec 5 speed. Today is one of the few times I am even getting it out of the shop as I load it up to take it to a far away place to get it a different home. I hope they treat it better than I have.
In the trade for this car I am getting a dream car for me, a 1934 3 window coupe, its Big Block Chevy powered and it is another failed project that got put on the back burner by the prior owner. The country is just full of cars just like it, they all seem to start with great expectations and dreams of what "CAN" be and then at some point in time the realization that "CAN" be and "IS" are to completely different things.
I am going to post a picture of that little Green Model A just so that there will be one somewhere and maybe ever once in a while I can take a look and re-read this post and hope I don't say: "Man I should have kept that car"
Today I find myself on the threshold of doing another deal. You see I have this pretty cool little green 1929 Model A tudor that I have had for a couple of years. In those years it has just sat and I have not driven that little car hardly at all. That is a little strange as I usually drive the hell out of my cars. It is a cool little car, great running 351 W and a Tremec 5 speed. Today is one of the few times I am even getting it out of the shop as I load it up to take it to a far away place to get it a different home. I hope they treat it better than I have.
In the trade for this car I am getting a dream car for me, a 1934 3 window coupe, its Big Block Chevy powered and it is another failed project that got put on the back burner by the prior owner. The country is just full of cars just like it, they all seem to start with great expectations and dreams of what "CAN" be and then at some point in time the realization that "CAN" be and "IS" are to completely different things.
I am going to post a picture of that little Green Model A just so that there will be one somewhere and maybe ever once in a while I can take a look and re-read this post and hope I don't say: "Man I should have kept that car"
#5
Members Rides / A Couple of Mine
May 29, 2009, 10:00:53 PM
Hey folks I'm a new guy here, but I have a couple of Hot Rods to sgare.
RS
RS
#6
Members Rides / 4t64rd's 46 Ford Tudor
May 29, 2009, 09:56:43 PM
I really like your fat Fendered little Ford. Don't worry about the rattle can paint, best paint awards at car shows are won every year by cars painted with spray cans.
I have my own little 46, my paint was done in a booth and cost me a bundle. Your from your pic's looks just as good.
RS
I have my own little 46, my paint was done in a booth and cost me a bundle. Your from your pic's looks just as good.
RS
Pages1