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Title: Slant Six?
Post by: purplepickup on June 18, 2004, 11:49:29 AM
I've been playing with the idea of adding a low buck roadster of some sort to my list of future projects...maybe a pickup made out of the many extra '31 Chevy parts I've got .  Something other than a V8 sounds good too.  A guy at work has a '76 Aspen with a 225 slant 6, 2bbl, and a 904 transmission that runs good.  It was his grandmother's and it only has around 60,000 miles on it.  He's talking about selling it for around $500 and it got me thinking about using the engine and tranny.  If I did get it, I wouldn't want to do much performance stuff to it...basically just clean it up, maybe rebuild it, and run it.  I don't know much about them but I hear they're pretty dependable and I like the idea of having something different.  It looks like parts are still available for the engine anyway.  

Anybody have any opinions or comments.....good or bad?
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: Phat on June 18, 2004, 11:58:47 AM
George if you build something with a slant six...its gonna be around for a long time.  They ran forever.  We turbo charged one and it 8)  ran pretty * good in a dart. Pretty neat engine and if you were blind you could tell what it was when started.  As you can tell i am a huge fan of inline motors and i really do like that one.  Of coarse if you wanted to keep it all GM a inline GMC 302 can be built up to about 347 cubic in and live.  I run a 235 everday of the week and if sitting someplace next to 5 trucks that look the same...the inline motor always gets the looks.  Go for it.
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: MrMopar64 on June 18, 2004, 01:05:39 PM
Go for it....... I've got one in my 64 for the same reason everyone has a v8

MM64  8)
Title: Re: Slant Six?
Post by: WZ JUNK on June 18, 2004, 01:47:01 PM
go to http://slantsix.org/forum/index.php

I guess you know that is the motor that I run it the drag car.

Send me an email as I want to send you a picture of the Bonneville car and the Leaning tower of power Dart.  I have had some problems emailing you.
Title: Re: Slant Six?
Post by: purplepickup on June 18, 2004, 03:20:28 PM
Quote from: "WZ JUNK"I guess you know that is the motor that I run it the drag car.

Send me an email as I want to send you a picture of the Bonneville car and the Leaning tower of power Dart.  

I knew you run a slant 6 in your drag car and I'd hoped to hear from you.  I shot you an email.

I just talked to the guy with the Aspen and he has kind of committed to selling it to another guy, thru a friend of his, for less than he was asking.  That guy wants to race it.  It's a '79 not a '76.  I told him I was interested and to let me know if it's still available.  He's a hard core Mopar guy and really likes the idea of a mopar engine in a Chevy. :shock:

I told a couple of guys at work what I was thinking and they think I'm nuts.  That makes me even more determined. :twisted:  

One fear I have is that someday I'll wake up NORMAL.  :shock:     Like I told one of the "matching numbers" kind of guys that doubts my judgement, "It's one of those things that if I have to explain, you wouldn't understand anyway."
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: SKR8PN on June 18, 2004, 05:09:03 PM
George,if you do put the deal together for that slanty,don't worry about rebuilding it. With only 60,000 on the clock,it's just barely broken in :lol:
The only problem you may encounter,is the slanty is wide in an odd sort of way. Might be tight getting hood sides on.........
Other than that,GO FOR IT!!
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: 58 Yeoman on June 18, 2004, 06:11:17 PM
Before I got divorced, I had a neighbor that had one of the Dusters with a slant six in it, that he used every day to drive to Joliet on I 80. He had over 325,000 on it and it still ran good and looked good. Then he gave it to his kid....didn't last long after that.
Title: Re: Slant Six?
Post by: tomslik on June 18, 2004, 07:27:53 PM
Quote from: "purplepickup"I've been playing with the idea of adding a low buck roadster of some sort to my list of future projects...maybe a pickup made out of the many extra '31 Chevy parts I've got .  Something other than a V8 sounds good too.  A guy at work has a '76 Aspen with a 225 slant 6, 2bbl, and a 904 transmission that runs good.  It was his grandmother's and it only has around 60,000 miles on it.  He's talking about selling it for around $500 and it got me thinking about using the engine and tranny.  If I did get it, I wouldn't want to do much performance stuff to it...basically just clean it up, maybe rebuild it, and run it.  I don't know much about them but I hear they're pretty dependable and I like the idea of having something different.  It looks like parts are still available for the engine anyway.  

Anybody have any opinions or comments.....good or bad?

oooohhhh, just wait'll you get here next weekend!
have i got a deal for you!
ain't no sbc, either...

how much weight can your trailer handle  ;)
Title: Re: Slant Six?
Post by: moparrodder on June 18, 2004, 08:56:34 PM
Quote from:  I hear they're pretty dependable and I like the idea of having something different.  

Anybody have any opinions or comments.....good or bad?[/quote
Yup George, they're dependable!!  My ex-brother-in law had one in a Valiant that he put a 4 barrel on and it ran like scat!!  He put on over 300,000 miles on it before he sold it with no problems, and yes parts are still available anywhere.  I found a 66 Dart GT that I'm giving to our youngest son for his first restoration and it has a slant six too.  The slanty was stuck but I filled the cylinders with iodine and it was free in a week and also has the 904 auto behind it so it should be a good cruzer for him.  I'd say GO for it even if ya don't get that particular one,  you will be suprised how it will perform and there are a lot of performance patrs for them too.   Dare to be different!!!    Bill
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: parklane on June 18, 2004, 09:26:09 PM
Bill
   You put iodine in an engine to free it up?? I've used diesel fuel, but never heard of the iodine trick.

John
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: purplepickup on June 18, 2004, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: "PeterR"These motors much larger than they first appear, so do some careful measuring being going too far.

They also came out as a marine version with the engine laying over so the cylinders were horizontal and the whole engine could fit under the floor.

Thanks Peter, a friend here told me that too.  And he said the location of the distributor might be a problem on narrow frame rails too.  As far as width goes, I don't plan to run hood side panels so it could stick out a little.  I believe an engine should be seen.  I never heard about the marine version.  That would be different. :-o

I have a feeling the other guy will buy it over the weekend, especially if he knows someone else is interested.  It does run good and the owner is fussy about changing the oil and maintaining it.

Quote from: "tomslik"oooohhhh, just wait'll you get here next weekend!
have i got a deal for you!
ain't no sbc, either...

how much weight can your trailer handle  ;)

Tom, it sounds like you're still trying to get rid of that 4.3. :wink:
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: tomslik on June 18, 2004, 09:34:55 PM
Quote from: "purplepickup"
Quote from: "PeterR"These motors much larger than they first appear, so do some careful measuring being going too far.

They also came out as a marine version with the engine laying over so the cylinders were horizontal and the whole engine could fit under the floor.

Thanks Peter, a friend here told me that too.  And he said the location of the distributor might be a problem on narrow frame rails too.  As far as width goes, I don't plan to run hood side panels so it could stick out a little.  I believe an engine should be seen.  I never heard about the marine version.  That would be different. :-o

I have a feeling the other guy will buy it over the weekend, especially if he knows someone else is interested.  It does run good and the owner is fussy about changing the oil and maintaining it.

Quote from: "tomslik"oooohhhh, just wait'll you get here next weekend!
have i got a deal for you!
ain't no sbc, either...

how much weight can your trailer handle  ;)

Tom, it sounds like you're still trying to get rid of that 4.3. :wink:

nope, even something better!
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: moparrodder on June 18, 2004, 09:35:53 PM
Quote from: "parklane"Bill
   You put iodine in an engine to free it up?? I've used diesel fuel, but never heard of the iodine trick.

John
John, Yup it works, we used it a lot on the ole Farmal F-20 and F-30 tractors,as they seem to stick a lot if ya didn't use them often.   I know it sound a little different but it does work.  Bill
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: unklian on June 18, 2004, 11:30:44 PM
If I had a Slant 6 for a hot rod roadster,
I'd be real tempted to make a new intake manifold,
and stand the motor up straight. :shock:

It would confuse EVERYONE.
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on June 19, 2004, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: "purplepickup"Tom, it sounds like you're still trying to get rid of that 4.3. :wink:


I still have bare aluminum heads & intake for a 4.3

mayb I need to ebay this stuff?

:shock:
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: jon g on June 19, 2004, 12:39:06 AM
George,
I've always liked the sound of those inline sixes! That would be sooo neat.
And yes, engines are meant to be seen so no hood side panels.
Never had experience with that engine but always heard good things about them..........good luck with the deal!!
Jon G
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: Bib_Overalls on June 19, 2004, 12:47:45 AM
What is wrong with a Chevy in line six?  Or a Chevy II/Mercruiser four banger.  My bias is showing.  Never mind.
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: river1 on June 19, 2004, 02:33:32 AM
i know tex smith used a slant six in his XR6.

did he use one in the dollar a pound rod? if he did he got the hood sides on it.

the one in the XR6 had three carbs (webers?) so it prolly moved out pretty good.

later jim
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: tomslik on June 19, 2004, 07:50:13 AM
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "purplepickup"Tom, it sounds like you're still trying to get rid of that 4.3. :wink:


I still have bare aluminum heads & intake for a 4.3

mayb I need to ebay this stuff?

:shock:


geez, if you B waitin' fo me,don't.
i just don't have the coin right now, trying to get some bills paid off...

btw, i've got 2  4.3's ...
purp, i've got a nice little chevy 194/glide package if you're interested, hate to see ya use a mope ;)
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: Stakebed on June 19, 2004, 09:15:29 AM
The only problem I recall with slant six engines was with the distributors.
With it laying over we would ocasionally find one with worn bushings in the dist, causing erratic firing. Easy fix with a used or rebuilt distributor. Other than that I don't recall ever doing much more than a valve cover gasket,water or fuel pump on one in 15 years working in a service station shop. seemed to be a very reliable engine.
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: model a vette on June 19, 2004, 02:12:28 PM
"I still have bare aluminum heads & intake for a 4.3
maybe I need to ebay this stuff?"

Crosley- Are those for a 4.3 Chevy V6? What's the story on them & what would you need to get for them?
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on June 19, 2004, 03:52:30 PM
Quote from: "tomslik"

geez, if you B waitin' fo me,don't.
i just don't have the coin right now, trying to get some bills paid off...


========= tom ,  not waitin on you.  8)  

Not sure if you folks here have EVER heard of this pattern of buy & sell.........  I tend to buy stuff I am sure I need and is hopefully a good deal.

After I sit on it for several years I blow the stuff out for a lot less than I paid
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on June 19, 2004, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: "model a vette""I still have bare aluminum heads & intake for a 4.3
maybe I need to ebay this stuff?"

Crosley- Are those for a 4.3 Chevy V6? What's the story on them & what would you need to get for them?

======== yep , 4.3 V-6 stuff.  These are an early set of aluminum heads for the 4.3 engine. Not the later exotic aluminum stuff GM produced for the 4.3  The heads are raw machined as they come from GM, no valves

Forged pistons, HD valve springs, guide plates, short & tall valve covers, intake is a GM unit.

Not sure what I will do this stuff and the 4.3 engine I have. If you are going to build a V-6 of the 4.3 size, you may as well build a small block  chevy
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: enjenjo on June 19, 2004, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: "river1"i know tex smith used a slant six in his XR6.

did he use one in the dollar a pound rod? if he did he got the hood sides on it.

the one in the XR6 had three carbs (webers?) so it prolly moved out pretty good.

later jim

The XR6 has a slant six in it. The Dollar a Pound roadster has a Pontiac OHC six in it.
Title: Slant Six?
Post by: 58 Yeoman on June 19, 2004, 05:59:06 PM
Crosley wrote:

QuoteNot sure if you folks here have EVER heard of this pattern of buy & sell......... I tend to buy stuff I am sure I need and is hopefully a good deal.

After I sit on it for several years I blow the stuff out for a lot less than I paid

Tony...I have a similar buying plan.  I buy something that is rare and hard to get, then later they come crawling out of the woodwork at a lot less than I paid.   Or, I paid $300 to have both rear fenders for the Poncho straightened out (so-so job), then find a pair of NOS for just over $400. I'll put the repaired ones on ebay to try and recoup SOME of my money. :(
Title: iodine
Post by: parklane on June 19, 2004, 11:08:36 PM
Quote from: "moparrodder"
Quote from: "parklane"Bill
   You put iodine in an engine to free it up?? I've used diesel fuel, but never heard of the iodine trick.

John
John, Yup it works, we used it a lot on the ole Farmal F-20 and F-30 tractors,as they seem to stick a lot if ya didn't use them often.   I know it sound a little different but it does work.  Bill

Bill, where do you buy iodine in that quantity? Never had a F-20 or F-30, but we did have a Farmall super M in the mid 50's Now I'm starting to show my age
John  8)