The Rodding Roundtable
Motorhead Message Central => Rodder's Roundtable => Topic started by: enjenjo on October 09, 2008, 01:10:06 AM
I am going to be in the market for a new drill in the near future. The one I am using now is a Milwaukee 3/8" variable speed with a 1/2" chuck. Is there any thing better out there?
Also, any reccommendations on cordless drills? I have has Makita, Blaxk and Decker, Delta, and Clarke. All of them worked well, but they obsoleted the batteries, which make them useless after a few years,
lithium ion batteries are a big improvement, I went with Makita 18 volt but nut sure it is the best but batteries have been improved greatly. I do like our big Milwakees at work 24 volt lithium lots of power and last a long time. Ed
I need a new cordless drill motor myself... I released the smoke from it a few weeks ago.
The cost of the lithium battery units turns me away from them.
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I have a Dewalt 18 volt cordless, expensive but worth it. The only thing I don't like about it is that it is very powerful, more than my corded drill. If it grabs it WILL twist your arm around!! As far as the corded drills go I just bought a Dewalt keyless chuck drill, to replace my '70's B & D. When i was working at the die shop we used Milwaulkee corded drills in the machine shop/tool making areas. those things took a LOT of abuse and came back fo more. If we did manage to hurt one we could get it fixed instead of getting it replaced.
I have several different kinds. I have the Sears 19.2v 1/2 drill an 3/8 angle drill combo. Not too impressed with them, angle is almost impossible to tighten the chuck. I have a Riged 18v combo set and I do like that drill and the rest of the stuff, but the drill I use the most is my old 12v 3/8 DeWalt. Small enough to get in an still has good power. I really only pull out the Rigid when I need the 1/2 inch chuck.
Doug
If you disassemble the batteries in most of the 'special' battery devices - drills etc. - you'll find a stack of ni-cad Double A's most times.
Radio shack has Double A replacements along with a little kit of solder links.
I have used these for years...IMPOSSIBLE to break..( Unless you drop it .. :oops: )
The only problem with them is ......If the bit grabs..Hanging on with all 4 hands ain't gonna help.... :shock: :shock: You ARE goin for a ride..... :-}
Other model # --( Older) is 0234-1...No other changes...
Oh..A 25' plug in cord is also available...( Bye-Bye extention cords... :D )
http://www.bestmaterials.com/detail.aspx?ID=16065
I also found a review..... 8)
http://zo-d.com/stuff/tool-reviews/milwaukee-magnum-12-drill-model-02346-review.html
Bob................. :wink:
We use strictly Dewalt and Metabo drills and grinders at work. I'd rate Metabo a little higher.
Their electric drills and grinders have clutch mechanisms in them.
I have a Metabo 18V cordless 1/2" drill and it works awesome; lots of torque and long usage.
I also have a Black and decker 18V 1/2" and a Harbor Freight 18V 3/8ths. Surprisingly, the HF batteries last longer than the B+D.
Don't know about them but I saw this site on craigslist the other day.
http://wcbatteryrebuilders.com/
Quote from: "C9"you'll find a stack of ni-cad Double A's most times
After reading that I opened up one of my bad ones and found 15 nicad D cells. Soon I'll check the cost of buying replacements. Thanks for that idea!
As far as a corded drill, I rate my Bosch at or near the top.
Cordless, my Porter Cable ia a 14.4V and I can assure you that it has more 'balls' then the now Chinese made 18V B&D/DeWalts that others own and I have been using on some special projects where tools are supplied. I would spring for the 18V version if buying a new one though.
Batteries - a sore point for most of these tools. Many of these battery operated cordless tools use what are known as 'sub-c' batteries. You can buy NiCd's for as low as $1.50/each I'm rebuilding mine with solder tabs already installed for about $25 for a set of 12 (including shipping) on EvilBay. One pack is done and one to go. So far the power is about the same, but not sure yet if they retain their life or charge quite as well. You do have to use about the same mAh cells or risk killing your charger though. A premium Sanyo battery is a fair amount more and the savings obviously not so good.
Quote from: "Crosley"I need a new cordless drill motor myself... I released the smoke from it a few weeks ago.
The cost of the lithium battery units turns me away from them.
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money well spent, though.
i 've got a snapon screw gun that's a rechargable and a bosch that's a lithiun-ion.
i change batteries out about 1 once a day with the snappy and once a week with the bosch.
and i use the bosch more...
btw,i've got a b&d firestorm hammer drill, not a bad drill but the keyless chuck sucks
Quotebtw,i've got a b&d firestorm hammer drill, not a bad drill but the keyless chuck sucks
Most of them do. You can buy good chucks, but they are nearly as expensive as the drill. but they are worth it.
After this post, I got out a couple batteries I had for my drill that weren't working. I charged them up, checked the cells, marked the bad ones, and switched in good ones from the other battery. So now one of them works again. Now if I get some more cells, I can fix the other one.
I still need a cordless drill... 3/8 inch , variable speed.
I do not use this tool regularly / daily , so I do not need a $ 200.00+ drill.
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crosley.... if you need a cheep 3/8 reversable 18 volt drill...
check out the throw away unit from autozone.. they sell for like 20 bucks...
i use them... since i only need a few holes once in a while...
i just cannot remember if they are variable speed...
they have the handy torque limiter for putting in fasteners also...
i even bought a spare battery... so i have more stuff to throw away...
i stopped and looked it up...
Great Neck/ 18 Volts 2 Speed Cordless Drill
About this product: Part Number: 80133 seems the web price is 39.99 but for the holidays they are usually sold for 20 bucks...
not a great deal at 40 bucks....at 20... yes...
oh... and if you need a really big drill.... i have a a 220v 3/4 inch chuck drill... and i just picked up some old thing... it has a jacob's taper socket drive ... i forget the brand.. might even be porter cable... turns really slow...
wayne,
75- 100 bucks is fine with me on a drill.... not over 200 bucks.
With my usage demands the last 2 cordless drills lasted near 5 yrs each.
I've got several of the Sears 19.2v units and like them. They do have a Lithium battery for their stuff now so I may upgrade with that. I also have the trim saw, demolition saw, saber saw, etc. I've gotten several pieces cheap off ebay.
I've got a lot of 19.2V Sears stuff too....circular saw, two 3/8 drills, a 1/2" drill, sabre saw, fluorescent work light, sawzall and I've done a heck of a lot of construction projects with them. Everything I build nowadays gets screwed together instead of nailed. I've had them for over 2 years and haven't had a battery go bad yet. They have two types of batteries and these are EX batteries, whatever that is. I'm sure there is much better cordless tools but these have served me well.
The current Consumers Report magazine has reviews of cordless tools. I can't remember the results. I left it at the cabin last weekend.
I've been checking the Sears cordless drill motors.... I really do not want to buy a 4 - 12 piece drill , light, disco ball, laser sword kit... it looks like that may be an option though.
there is a way to find out whats out there at least on the web
http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=cordless%20drills&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00911588000P?vName=Tools&cName=Portable+Power+Tools&sName=Drills
Quote from: "enjenjo"http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00911588000P?vName=Tools&cName=Portable+Power+Tools&sName=Drills
that one lists speeds as "2" .. not variable
:?
I looked around the web site of Sears again.
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Quote from: "Crosley"Quote from: "enjenjo"http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00911588000P?vName=Tools&cName=Portable+Power+Tools&sName=Drills
that one lists speeds as "2" .. not variable
:?
I looked around the web site of Sears again.
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a 2-speed gearbox (0-400 / 0-1,400 rpm),
Quote from: "enjenjo"http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00911588000P?vName=Tools&cName=Portable+Power+Tools&sName=Drills
I got one of those and use it for heavy stuff but the 3/8" is my favorite for all around use...it's lighter to hold. That's a pretty good price. The 3/8" gets as cheap as $39 on black friday and around Christmas.
Quote from: "enjenjo"Quote from: "Crosley"Quote from: "enjenjo"http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00911588000P?vName=Tools&cName=Portable+Power+Tools&sName=Drills
that one lists speeds as "2" .. not variable
:?
I looked around the web site of Sears again.
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a 2-speed gearbox (0-400 / 0-1,400 rpm),
what is confusing , some of the specs for drills list variable speed with the 0-400 / 0-1,400 RPM and other specs only list 2 speed ... the word variable is not there.
Details , details..
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Quote from: "Crosley"
what is confusing , some of the specs for drills list variable speed with the 0-400 / 0-1,400 RPM and other specs only list 2 speed ... the word variable is not there.
Details , details..
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That one's variable. It just has two rpm ranges....low/high torque and high speed. If you overwork the high speed setting it will drain the battery fairly quick and probably hurt the motor.
Just to add confusion to the lower end offerings, I also bought a Firestorm kit at Lowes that was a father's day special. A 1/2" drill/driver and 6.5" circular saw with a charger and 2 batteries for only $49, but now the drill is double that by itself http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=23106-79992-FS1800D&lpage=none I didn't expect much from Black & Decker but I've been very impressed with both the saw and the drill. Both the tools and batteries have held up well. A cool feature with the drill is that the chuck is easily removed leaving a hex drive so you can drill a hole then pop the chuck off and use a driver without a lot of hassle. I still grab the smaller craftsman first tho.
You all are trying real hard to get me to get a cordless drill ain't ya?
Quote from: "Carnut"You all are trying real hard to get me to get a cordless drill ain't ya?
yes, it is time for you to step into the 1990's.
:lol:
On saturday I finally picked a drill from Sears... this morning I go to the web site shopping cart on Sears. The drill is now 30 dollars more , off sale.
So I have selected another drill setup.
One item I always find interesting about Sears various descriptions listed:
"Price match policy" -- what other company sells Craftsman tools?
"Sears exclusive" --- same question; What other company sells Craftsman tools?
:lol:
Quote from: "Crosley"On saturday I finally picked a drill from Sears... this morning I go to the web site shopping cart on Sears. The drill is now 30 dollars more , off sale.
So I have selected another drill setup.
One item I always find interesting about Sears various descriptions listed:
"Price match policy" -- what other company sells Craftsman tools?
"Sears exclusive" --- same question; What other company sells Craftsman tools?
:lol:
K Mart
Quote from: "phat46"Quote from: "Crosley"On saturday I finally picked a drill from Sears... this morning I go to the web site shopping cart on Sears. The drill is now 30 dollars more , off sale.
So I have selected another drill setup.
One item I always find interesting about Sears various descriptions listed:
"Price match policy" -- what other company sells Craftsman tools?
"Sears exclusive" --- same question; What other company sells Craftsman tools?
:lol:
K Mart
Really? Kmart stores are still open?
Obviously I have not been to a Kmart store in a long time.
:shock:
Quote from: "Crosley"Quote from: "phat46"Quote from: "Crosley"On saturday I finally picked a drill from Sears... this morning I go to the web site shopping cart on Sears. The drill is now 30 dollars more , off sale.
So I have selected another drill setup.
One item I always find interesting about Sears various descriptions listed:
"Price match policy" -- what other company sells Craftsman tools?
"Sears exclusive" --- same question; What other company sells Craftsman tools?
:lol:
K Mart
Really? Kmart stores are still open?
Obviously I have not been to a Kmart store in a long time.
:shock:
Me either, Nor a Sears, I did see craftsman tools at K Mart about this time last year when i was getting my deer license. I laughed, because I think that's where all Craftsman tools belong, I have terrible luck with them, actually with anything from Sears! Electric tools are the worst for me,radial arm saw, drills, compressors, router, T.V., all their paint, etc. etc. Haven't been in a Sears in at least two years, that's when i bought an under the counter T.V. for the kitchen and the on-off button fell out of it ( :shock: ) less than a month after the warrentee expired....just when i thought it might be safe to go back to Sears. I know people that LOVE Sears, but i guess i have bad MoJo there or something!
Sorry I am so late getting in on this thread........I have a LOT of the Dewalt 18volt stuff. TWO 3/8 drills,one is a hammer drill,a sawzall, a small circular saw, the radio battery charger thing and a flashlight or two. I can't say one bad thing about ANY of them. The smaller drill and the circular saw I have had for 6 or 7 years, and have used the living daylights out of both of them. the drill has been so hot that it started smoking and stinking, but it still keeps on drilling anything I need drilled!
Sears bought K mart and the one here looks like an Odd Lots for sears close-outs. I have a problem with drilling because I have no depth persception and my glasses only correct vision in my right eye to cut down on my double vision problem., so I tend to hold my drill off to the side. I just ruined a fairly new Sears 1/2" drill because of this. To make it double insulated the drill chuck bearings just seat in plastic housings. I replaced it with a "D" handled 1/2" drill from Harbor Freight that was on sale for $32.00 hoping I won't break so many drill bits and when it goes bad I'll throw it away and look for another one on sale. I keep wearing out blades on my bandsaw trying to cut stuff small enough to get in my drill press. GPster
on rebuilding your battery packs
http://www.toolcrib.com/blog/2008/11/04/power-tool-battery-repair-resources-for-rebuilding-your-rechargeable-batteries/
hope it helps someone
later jim
I'd guess you've got a drill by now but this ain't a bad deal for $79 http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00911780000P?adCell=A3
Prolly won't last long.