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Motorhead Message Central => Rodder's Roundtable => Topic started by: DRD57 on September 16, 2008, 08:02:50 AM

Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: DRD57 on September 16, 2008, 08:02:50 AM
When I get back to the shop I've got a 50 Olds in the shop that the customer wants bagged. Since the front suspension needs a rebuild anyway and it's kind of goofy he's open to a sub frame clip for the car.

I know another guy who just did a Camaro clip in an identical car and he narrowed it to get the track width right and for an overall better fit. I can do that but if there's something that fits better, I'd rather use that.

So, the question is: What GM front end is the best fit for this car? Would an S10 or 78 - 8? G body be better?

Thanks,

Don
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: enjenjo on September 16, 2008, 08:15:07 AM
A 78 to 87 A and G body clip fits nice, 4" narrower than a Camaro clip. You can use the Camaro spindles, bolt in, to get the bigger 11"brakes, or similar year Caddy spindles to get 12" brakes. The same air bag kits that fit an S10 will fit the A/G body clip too.
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: DRD57 on September 16, 2008, 08:51:52 AM
Quote from: "enjenjo"A 78 to 87 A and G body clip fits nice, 4" narrower than a Camaro clip. You can use the Camaro spindles, bolt in, to get the bigger 11"brakes, or similar year Caddy spindles to get 12" brakes. The same air bag kits that fit an S10 will fit the A/G body clip too.

Thanks, I suspected that might be the case.

Will the 78 - 82 Caddy spindles, rotors etc. affect the track width?
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: enjenjo on September 16, 2008, 09:15:30 AM
QuoteWill the 78 - 82 Caddy spindles, rotors etc. affect the track width?

Not to any great extent, less than 1/4" You can also use 94 Camaro rotors on the Caddy spindles for a 4 3/4" bolt pattern.
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: DRD57 on September 16, 2008, 09:23:53 AM
Quote from: "enjenjo"
QuoteWill the 78 - 82 Caddy spindles, rotors etc. affect the track width?

Not to any great extent, less than 1/4" You can also use 94 Camaro rotors on the Caddy spindles for a 4 3/4" bolt pattern.

Does the 50 Olds have a 4 3/4" or a 5" pattern?
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: enjenjo on September 16, 2008, 09:30:01 AM
50 Olds is a 5" pattern.
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: sirstude on September 17, 2008, 03:41:47 PM
Frank,

I think you told me before, but what upper control arms are you using with the Cad stuff on the G-body frames?  Or just a plate and raise the stock arm up?

Doug
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: enjenjo on September 17, 2008, 08:54:27 PM
Just use the stock arm, in the stock location. If you need a lot  shims on the bolts to get alignment, I use a plate drilled to fit the holes 3/8" to 1/2" thick, but this is just a spacer to reduce the  amount of shims used. You may not need to do this, because most of these frames have sagged in a bit over the years.

The tall spindle conversion is used by racers to reduce camber gain in corners.
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: DRD57 on September 30, 2008, 02:27:58 AM
What's a reasonable price for a G-body front clip?
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: enjenjo on September 30, 2008, 03:09:20 PM
Around here, $150 seems to be a going price. It should not be a problem out there, but here you have to check for rust.

For comparision, I can pick up a complete 9" Ford rear for about the same price.
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: Brootal on October 02, 2008, 11:53:53 AM
How the hell do you remember all this stuff, Frank? :)
Title: Bagging an Olds
Post by: enjenjo on October 02, 2008, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: "Brootal"How the hell do you remember all this stuff, Frank? :)

I have no common sense. this leaves a lot of unused space in my brain, even thought it is not overly large. this other stuff just kind of rattles around in there until someone asks.
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