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Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: enjenjo on June 29, 2007, 09:42:16 PM
I'm doing a 40 Plymouth pickup right now. I am using a You weld it front crossmember, stock width. I needed a sway bar for it, and did not want to use a wimpy stock Mustang bar. I dug around, and found an S10 bar, about 1" diameter, it looked pretty close, so I tried it.

I had to bend each end out 2 1/4". That's it. I fabricated a bracket on the lower control arm that bolts on with the strut rod, and used S10 links. It clears the steering in all positions, and the S10 mounts will bolt to the bottom of the frame. I checked the width on a 40 Ford, and a 47 Chevy, and it will work there too.
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on June 29, 2007, 11:21:19 PM
flathead V-8 , plymouth , studie ?
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: river1 on June 30, 2007, 12:02:37 AM
caddy flathead???

later jim
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: phat rat on June 30, 2007, 12:04:10 AM
Quote from: "river1"caddy flathead???

later jim

My guess also. Stude and plymouth didn't have flathead V8's
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: enjenjo on June 30, 2007, 01:17:18 AM
It's not a flathead. There is a clue in the picture if you look close.
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: phat46 on June 30, 2007, 06:45:37 AM
HEMI!!!
Why didn't you want to use the Mustang swaybar? Maybe because of the bend in the middle?
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: UGLY OLDS on June 30, 2007, 09:54:34 AM
Neat idea on the outer link bracket under the strut bar mount...I gotta remember that one.... :idea:  Neat trans adapter...What trans & starter is being used??
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: enjenjo on June 30, 2007, 10:37:20 AM
The Mustang sway bar has the pesky bend that hits everything, or hangs down too far, and is very small in diameter.

It's a 392 out of a 58, the trans is a 700R4, and the starter is Mopar.
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: 2rods on June 30, 2007, 11:41:35 AM
What year or years S10?
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on June 30, 2007, 12:29:47 PM
Plymouth , studie or maybe a franklin engine??

8)
Title: Re: Mustang sway bar
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on June 30, 2007, 12:31:19 PM
Quote from: "enjenjo"I'm doing a 40 Plymouth pickup right now. I am using a You weld it front crossmember, stock width. I needed a sway bar for it, and did not want to use a wimpy stock Mustang bar. I dug around, and found an S10 bar, about 1" diameter, it looked pretty close, so I tried it.

I had to bend each end out 2 1/4". That's it. I fabricated a bracket on the lower control arm that bolts on with the strut rod, and used S10 links. It clears the steering in all positions, and the S10 mounts will bolt to the bottom of the frame. I checked the width on a 40 Ford, and a 47 Chevy, and it will work there too.

does the heat destroy/ anneal  the sway bar metal , render it useless??
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: Charlie Chops 1940 on June 30, 2007, 01:38:25 PM
Nope.
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: enjenjo on June 30, 2007, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: "2rods"What year or years S10?

This one came out of an 85. So 82 to 93 should be the same.

Heating a sway bar doesn't hurt it. They are heat treated, but not to a high degree.
Title: Re: Mustang sway bar
Post by: Dave on June 30, 2007, 03:16:52 PM
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "enjenjo"I'm doing a 40 Plymouth pickup right now. I am using a You weld it front crossmember, stock width. I needed a sway bar for it, and did not want to use a wimpy stock Mustang bar. I dug around, and found an S10 bar, about 1" diameter, it looked pretty close, so I tried it.

I had to bend each end out 2 1/4". That's it. I fabricated a bracket on the lower control arm that bolts on with the strut rod, and used S10 links. It clears the steering in all positions, and the S10 mounts will bolt to the bottom of the frame. I checked the width on a 40 Ford, and a 47 Chevy, and it will work there too.

does the heat destroy/ anneal  the sway bar metal , render it useless??

Heat it and let it cool Tony.. If it air cools it will be just fine,. Its doing most of the work inboard of the bend anyway ... the bend just helps get the thing  where you want it.  If you cool it rapidly with water it could become brittle and if you did it by plunging it into oil then it would heat treat it but then it must be drawn back or it could still be too hard.  The best way is to heat it and bend it then bury it in floor dry for an extended cool down period but air cooling works just fine.....
Dave
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: tomslik on June 30, 2007, 09:43:35 PM
croz, don't leave it out in your "dry" heat.



it'll melt in to the sidewalk.... :lol:
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on June 30, 2007, 11:11:57 PM
Quote from: "tomslik"croz, don't leave it out in your "dry" heat.



it'll melt in to the sidewalk.... :lol:

True , I must be careful.  

I am envious of your place with that frozen water stuff  as shown in the photo.... NOT
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: tomslik on July 01, 2007, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "tomslik"croz, don't leave it out in your "dry" heat.



it'll melt in to the sidewalk.... :lol:

True , I must be careful.  

I am envious of your place with that frozen water stuff  as shown in the photo.... NOT

you should be.
you'd be * thirsty if it wern't for the snow...
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on July 03, 2007, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: "tomslik"
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "tomslik"croz, don't leave it out in your "dry" heat.



it'll melt in to the sidewalk.... :lol:

True , I must be careful.  

I am envious of your place with that frozen water stuff  as shown in the photo.... NOT

you should be.
you'd be * thirsty if it wern't for the snow...

and ...... I have this 'small' vision of you mis-spelling your name as you pee in the snow while thinking :"  Cros , here is some water for you"


what does snow have to do with my tap water??


:shock:
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: phat rat on July 03, 2007, 11:16:44 PM
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "tomslik"
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "tomslik"croz, don't leave it out in your "dry" heat.



it'll melt in to the sidewalk.... :lol:

True , I must be careful.  

I am envious of your place with that frozen water stuff  as shown in the photo.... NOT

you should be.
you'd be * thirsty if it wern't for the snow...

and ...... I have this 'small' vision of you mis-spelling your name as you pee in the snow while thinking :"  Cros , here is some water for you"


what does snow have to do with my tap water??


:shock:

Doesn't a lot of the water in Az. come from the Colorado River? Snow melt feeds the river.
Title: Mustang sway bar
Post by: tomslik on July 04, 2007, 08:38:12 AM
Quote from: "phat rat"
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "tomslik"
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "tomslik"croz, don't leave it out in your "dry" heat.



it'll melt in to the sidewalk.... :lol:

True , I must be careful.  

I am envious of your place with that frozen water stuff  as shown in the photo.... NOT

you should be.
you'd be * thirsty if it wern't for the snow...

and ...... I have this 'small' vision of you mis-spelling your name as you pee in the snow while thinking :"  Cros , here is some water for you"


what does snow have to do with my tap water??


:shock:

Doesn't a lot of the water in Az. come from the Colorado River? Snow melt feeds the river.


yep, ya MIGHT wanna use a strainer before that next drink :shock: