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Motorhead Message Central => Rodder's Roundtable => Topic started by: purplepickup on November 26, 2006, 06:05:39 PM

Poll
Question: What do you think of the RRT format?
Option 1: Nothing needs changing.  It's fine the way it is. votes: 38
Option 2: I'd like to see some things different. votes: 48
Option 3: I don't care either way. votes: 26
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: purplepickup on November 26, 2006, 06:05:39 PM
I was thinking lately about activity on the RRT and wondered if there is anything we could do to improve things.  I have a couple of ideas and wondered what kind of suggestions we might get if we asked.   If you have suggestions or opinions either way, feel free to discuss them here.

One suggestion I've got would be to expand the Index (http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/index.php)  by adding topics like "Off Topic", "Build Progress", "Hot Tech Tips", "General car talk", specific ones for engines, transmissions, suspensions, ....whatever.   Many times particularly helpful type threads get lost in the black hole when they're all on one forum.  A lot of other boards break down the topics by category like ChevyTalk (http://www.chevytalk.org/threads/ubbthreads.php) or this  Teardrop Trailer (http://www.mikenchell.com/forums/index.php) forum. On those boards I notice that each forum develops it's own personality with the posts stimulating other posts and so it grows.

I know we get a lot of traffic here and maybe we could do something to encourage more people to jump in.  Many of the old timers don't post very much and some of the new guys don't stick around long.  

I was talking to Frank and he said he'd been thinking about ways to shake things up here a bit too.

Anyway, I thought I'd bring it up and see what happens.  Anyone else have any suggestions or opinions?  At least vote. :D
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: tomslik on November 26, 2006, 06:16:06 PM
i'll prolly never get this said right but,IF you don't"reply" right away,and it gets  2-3 posts down, it gets to not make sense (much like this).
yeah, you can "qoute" it but....
anybody understand what i'm saying?
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on November 26, 2006, 06:17:54 PM
We need some changes.

Additional forums.

What additional forums though?

I think the tech pages should be on this main page.  Good information there like Bob's write up on brake fluid.

Off topic is needed...... with limits on the subjects
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: Leon on November 26, 2006, 06:51:08 PM
Quote from: "purplepickup"
A lot of other boards break down the topics by category like ChevyTalk (http://www.chevytalk.org/threads/ubbthreads.php) or this  Teardrop Trailer (http://www.mikenchell.com/forums/index.php) forum.
Just as long as we don't add a Dutch Oven segment  :shock:  :lol:
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: sirstude on November 26, 2006, 07:17:42 PM
Just be careful on the changes.  I have seen a couple of boards that after the changes that were made, everyone left.  The nice thing about this board is the people after all.

Doug
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Charlie Chops 1940 on November 26, 2006, 07:24:21 PM
I think a "for sale" forum and a "wanted forum" similar to the HAMB would be something to consider. The current ads area is somewhat cumbersome to use IMHO.

Maybe a tech forum - might encourage the how-to type posts.

Just a couple thoughts.

Charlie
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: CQQL33 on November 26, 2006, 07:42:58 PM
It would be nice if everyone posted more information in their PROFILE.   It would be good to know who you are "talking" to.    I haven't posted much in the past due to other responcibility that took up most of my time.   I hope to improve that concern.    Basically, I like the rodding round table.
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: WZ JUNK on November 26, 2006, 07:47:48 PM
I like things the way they are.  I am comfortable, like when I am in my La Z Boy.  If you think some changes need to be made, I can adjust.  I think my fear of change comes from not knowing a lot about these machines and the works of the internet.  Right now I can post a question, comment on someones post,  and I can add a picture to a post.   As long as you do not screw up those things I am okay with whatever you do.

John
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: kb426 on November 26, 2006, 08:09:21 PM
I have mixed emotions about changes. I've seen changes tank other boards also. I think that I may be the only member that doesn't personally know most of the members. Most of that is due to my location and the fact that I spent 20 years as a drag racer and had no time to meet anybody that I wasn't racing against. Even though you won't get 20 posts to a question, there's a good chance that the response you do get may be useful and possibly correct. There's some frivolity here but it's not excessive and the board isn't vulgar. (Read not an embarrassment to us) If the desire to change is just to increase the numbers, maybe we need to do something to let the rest of the world we're here. I watched 2 other boards I'm on double in membership in the last 2 years. I can't say that they got better, it just takes more time to scroll through the posts. Rather than change what is here, possibly offer other areas for a different demographic than the current members. As far as the off topic area: my thought is NO. I want to talk about hot rods, not religion, politics, or how something has irritated someone to no end. Not to do away with the personal interaction between members that have known each other for years. The boards that I have observed doing well stay on topic exclusively. This is MHO, nothing else. I'm satisfied with what you do here.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: CruZer on November 26, 2006, 08:10:54 PM
I voted for change but then I couldn't think of any to suggest .
I don't post here much because I spend way too much time on the HAMB as it is.
Now I've found a snowplow site and with winter coming and the hotrod put away,I'll probably spend too much time there also.
I think the format is fine and I think if you break the subject matter into various topics,some people will not view every topic.
so why the heck did I vote for change ????? I'll shut up now......
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: chris spokes on November 26, 2006, 08:18:47 PM
8) you could open up the aussie section to all members to increase more traffic.over on ozrodders.com we have an ot section we call the pub you could also add a for sale/wanted/and an ebay section for those looking for a project,these sections are only veiwed by members so are closed to the guests and a construction and registration section would be of help to the new commer to the sport one other thing i would like to share is that we started what we beleive to be the first internet based hotrod club known as ozerodders hotrod &kustom club www.ozerodders.com anyway these are just my thoughts
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: KustomLincolnLady on November 26, 2006, 08:22:09 PM
Well for starters I could use a maid and cook, then I'd have more time to spend. :lol: here.

I'll give it some thought  :wink:  and get back to you
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: 36vicky on November 26, 2006, 08:25:10 PM
I don't post often.  Learn more by listening.  But I think change is good.  A high school science teacher once told me - the only thing constant in nature is change.

Another thing we sometimes forget when we oppose change, is that change works both ways.  If we change something and it doesn't work out, we just change back.

You know why we don't have Mastodons in Nebraska any more - they couldn't adapt to their changing environment.  Or was it Wooly Mammoth's Change on, I'm ready.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: rustyrelics on November 26, 2006, 08:30:58 PM
It would be nice if everyone put more information in their PROFILE. It would be good to know who you are "talking" to.and where they are

and maybe a trader area for both comercial and non comercial adds
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Mr Cool on November 26, 2006, 08:33:55 PM
I voted for change, but only to keep tech stuff seperate from general banter. Its much easier finding what you require that way rather than spend an hour searching for something.
As already mentioned over on ozrodders.com we have "the pub" where anything o/t goes, even the occasional "in context" swearing :wink: It is a pub after all. The threads drop off and dissappear forever after 2 weeks of no responses to the thread, so it also keeps the data base down to a respectable level too.
The usual car stuff is kept in the general section though.
I think it works very well.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: enjenjo on November 26, 2006, 08:52:34 PM
I voted for change, but I'm not sure what either. I have this feeling that we are losing people because of bordom, or because they don't think their opinion counts. I'm here to say they do matter.

I didn't, and don't have the knowledge to build or run this board, that is Fatcat's baliwick, and he has been pivotal in the success we have had. And the many people that have supported us over the years have been vital too.

I don't want this thing to get so big it loses the personal touch that we have, but without new and interesting things happening, we slowly lose participation.

Give me some ideas, and we'll see what we can do/
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: Rayvyn on November 26, 2006, 08:55:48 PM
Being as how I was one of the original 10 when this board started up over 11 years ago, I've witnessed that it's had a few turmoils and twists and turns, but the diligent work of a select few has kept this one of the more successful boards running. A few others have failed, and a couple of others have grown by leaps and bounds.

But as others have said, I think the most important ingredient in keeping this forum the best one out there is the people on it. Spending time together at shows, or helping each other with one project or another, or participating in the trials and tribulations of fellow members, or by just posting in a friendly jousting way, everyone seems to be friends to one degree or another.  

One knows that by posting here, he or she isn't going to get chewed up and spit out by smart alecks with attitudes for not following the "rules", or be chastized by a bunch of self important know-it-alls that look down their noses at beginners or non-conformists. Being a member of this forum is like putting on a pair of slippers, sitting by a warm fire on a chilly night and sitting back in your favorite chair while reading your latest car magazine...It's relaxing and comfortable. And informative.

I've always been behind the folks that run this board, and have supported whatever they wanted to do with it, because it's been a winner in my book for years now. But a few points that others have offered do stir my interest a bit.

An off topic section would be good to look at. And another suggestion would be to put up some kind of flashing icon when a new post is put in the OT, Tech or Classified section. This way everyone would know there's a new entry, and the listing wouldn't get buried or forgotten about as quickly. I'm the first to admit that I don't look in those listings very frequently, but would be inspired to if reminded to. And one other idea I had was maybe a Gallery or photo album section like the "members rides" listing. A collection of photos showing the members at events, building their projects, helping each other, etc., would be fun to look at, and the photos wouldn't get buried in the archives after a few days. I would say give the pictures a week or two on the regular board, then move them into the "gallery" for easier finding.

Whatever you Big Kahuna's decide to do is okay with me. But I'm still going to pick on Dave and Vance, even if it's in the OT section... :D
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: Dave on November 26, 2006, 09:10:44 PM
Quote from: "Rayvyn"Whatever you Big Kahuna's decide to do is okay with me. But I'm still going to pick on Dave and Vance, even if it's in the OT section... :D


Thank You..
I dont really care my self. Lets face the facts were all friends here and its a close nit group> I dont ever see this board being the HAMB style board. Sure they got tons of people over there but they or i should say Ryan puts a lot of time into it.  Maybe you should tell us what your thinkin instead of asking us to vote for a change :?: Im with wzjunk. change if you must and ill go along but  :?:  :?:
Dave
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: Fat Cat on November 26, 2006, 09:11:29 PM
Quote from: "Rayvyn"And one other idea I had was maybe a Gallery or photo album section like the "members rides" listing. A collection of photos showing the members at events, building their projects, helping each other, etc., would be fun to look at, and the photos wouldn't get buried in the archives after a few days. I would say give the pictures a week or two on the regular board, then move them into the "gallery" for easier finding.

There is a Gallery on the forum. It is located here http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/album.php it was added with the last round of forum updates.
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: Rayvyn on November 26, 2006, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: "Fat Cat"
Quote from: "Rayvyn"And one other idea I had was maybe a Gallery or photo album section like the "members rides" listing. A collection of photos showing the members at events, building their projects, helping each other, etc., would be fun to look at, and the photos wouldn't get buried in the archives after a few days. I would say give the pictures a week or two on the regular board, then move them into the "gallery" for easier finding.

There is a Gallery on the forum. It is located here http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/album.php it was added with the last round of forum updates.

Why am I always the last to know these things... :?:
Maybe if we had a flashing icon or something I would've known this... :lol:
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: phat46 on November 26, 2006, 09:21:23 PM
I voted that i don't care either way. I would like to see more participation  and members here but i have no idea how to do that. I have noticed lately how slow things have gotten. Maybe now that it's coming into winter people will have more time to post. I also think that there is a lot of folks lurking, one i know has a huge amount of knowledge and experience. (You know who I'm talking about Fred) Maybe a post in the forum from time to time to encourage lurkers to at least introduce themselves; that might spark some good discussion if they tell us about their vehicles and experiences.
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: Fat Cat on November 26, 2006, 09:24:15 PM
Quote from: "purplepickup"
One suggestion I've got would be to expand the Index (http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/index.php)  by adding topics like "Off Topic", "Build Progress", "Hot Tech Tips", "General car talk", specific ones for engines, transmissions, suspensions, ....whatever.

I am all for any additions that would make things more usable. My biggest reason for not making those sorts of changes in the past have been that for all the information we have here there are many people that don't even know it is here. Out of the thousands of page hits this site gets every month only 100 or so go to the tech section on the site. And most of those come to the article on building the E-Wheel and then go back to whatever forum they came from to ask questions. It is not uncommon for someone to ask a question about calculating something like tire size and gear ratios and have someone send a person to another website when there is a perfectly good calculator in the Tech section that I spent many hours on creating for them to use. The top 10 hits on this site are all related to the forum. Even the index page that I have spent many hours redesigning to welcome logged in users to the site and make more dynamic only ranks number 7 on the list of most traffic. Overall 60% of the traffic on site is directed straight to the Rodding Roundtable forum. only 12% of the overall traffic even look at the forum index at http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/index.php I would be hard pressed to see them looking at any new forums much less even knowing they are there.

Given all I have said I would like to see more participation form the users here. We have about 400 users that have signed up and never even posted a message. I would like to hear from them.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Pep on November 26, 2006, 09:27:53 PM
I think the OZRodders forum has worked it out fairly well, as a few have mentioned. You know what to expect when you venture into a specific area. "The Pub" has cleaned the general areas up a lot. The buy/sell sections have worked out well. In practice, it's just about right in all respects. Guests will only see certain sections, but full members have access and visability of all. The pub posts fade away in a couple of weeks. I think if the RRT emulates that, it will certainly re-vamp its past glory.
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: Fat Cat on November 26, 2006, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: "Rayvyn"
Quote from: "Fat Cat"
Quote from: "Rayvyn"And one other idea I had was maybe a Gallery or photo album section like the "members rides" listing. A collection of photos showing the members at events, building their projects, helping each other, etc., would be fun to look at, and the photos wouldn't get buried in the archives after a few days. I would say give the pictures a week or two on the regular board, then move them into the "gallery" for easier finding.

There is a Gallery on the forum. It is located here http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/album.php it was added with the last round of forum updates.

Why am I always the last to know these things... :?: :

I don't know I posted a announcement about it http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5377 You even replied on the thread

Quote from: "Rayvyn"Maybe if we had a flashing icon or something I would've known this... :lol:

You mean like this http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/templates/subSilver/images/folder_new_hot.gif which indicates that there is a new reply unlike http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/templates/subSilver/images/folder_hot.gif
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Pope Downunder on November 26, 2006, 09:38:55 PM
I like it just like it is.

My only problem, is my problem; that, I do not participate more.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: OldSub on November 26, 2006, 09:41:13 PM
I've been reading posts here almost every day, but haven't posted anything in a while.  I wanted to vote for change and then suggest that very much change is probably a bad thing...

Forums with lots of choices aren't as friendly as those with only a few.  ChevyTalk with 50 or more forums isn't a place where you get to know very many people and it has less a feel of community.  

I've watched one forum make that kind of change and it basically disappeared.  It was a small group and once everyone was broken into smaller interest groups people hardly every interacted any more.

A smaller number of forums, like the HAMB where some things are segregated out, but most the interaction happens in one place, is my preference.  

I like the community here, and breaking it up would be a shame.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Beck on November 26, 2006, 09:46:01 PM
I used to be regular at posting here. I kind of fell away for a bit. I seemed to spend too much time on the PC and not enough time in the garage. The time I was spending here moved to the garage. Then I ran out of time for the garage too. Just to many hours at work and keeping up with life.
When I have a problem this is the place I come. I try to search for the answer before posting, but normally just can't find it. When I ask the question here some of the regulars are quick to respond with good information, which is always appreciated.
I can see the OZ folks wanting a little more local information, which would be fine. I don't think I would ever wind up in that section. I have replied to a few of the OT posts that interested me. That is fine also, but I see no reason to keep an archive of the OT posts. This is a sight set out to be automotive related so archiving the OT posts isn't a priority in my view.
I enjoyed the salt flats posts. Congratulations! I was not a part of it and am stupid about it, but I would love to go and am sure I would be hooked. (I am interested in Sumner's lakester project, how about an update ).
To many forks in the road make it easy to get lost, and hard to get back.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: ONE37TUDOR on November 26, 2006, 09:50:14 PM
I voted for some changes just because I like some of the things other boards do to help get people to participate.

I see things a little differently than others that have replied to this topic in that I do not see this as one big happy family! And I also believe that that attitude is one of the things holding this board back some.

Now that I have * off most of you let me explain where I am coming from here. I am one of the outsiders and quiet often am made to feel that way. It is not anyones fault and no one here has done anything to intentionally make me feel that way. It is just that there is a large group of you that know each other and are able to associate with one another throughout the year and that is a good thing, especially for that group. However when someone new looks at the board and many of the posts appear to be full of "inside information" for lack of a better term. You can quickly loose interest and move on. That is in my opinion the downside to the "family" aspect of anything you are trying to grow with outsiders. After all you will only be able to grow your close family at a slow rate?

Having said all that I still think this is the best board I visit! Has the best group of people and as was stated earlier you usually get an answer to your question.
As for the changes I would like to see; It appears the HAMB is able to get user participation by having a "TECH WEEK" from time to time, that may work here? Also on another board each member is asked to post an update no what they have been up to every so often and replies do not have to be about their ongoing project they can be about anything. It is just something to help get more people involved. I have seen posts on here where people are asked what they do for an occupation? Or to show photos of their shop or home, anything to get a response and more importantly to make everyone feel more a part of the "Family"
Please do not separate posts into individual categories! two or three are ok but when you have separate areas for engine, body, glass, tailpipes and on and on it gets to be way to much for me.

I will go back to sleep now.

Scott...
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: 40 on November 26, 2006, 10:01:53 PM
I've been around a while and quite honestly haven't had the time to check out most of the features Frank has added this last go-round....As my business slows down for the Winter,I fully intend to explore it completely.I think segregating the Classifieds and Photo Gallery are fine but I hope the forum doesn't get broken down into too many segments so that it's hard to follow. As someone said in an earlier post,Chevy Talk is a good example of a site being broken down into so many different areas that each section has developed it's own following and is almost like separate message boards.Personally,I like the posts of various topics displayed on the same page....A little car info and a little BS! It really does make it more fun when you can put a face to the screen name.....I have met many wonderful people on the RRT and would encourage anyone here to try and attend our "get togethers" whenever they can....you'll be glad you did! I'll certainly adjust to whatever is in the best interest of the RRT....I plan on hanging around for the long haul!
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on November 26, 2006, 10:13:00 PM
Quote from: "Charlie Chops 1940"I think a "for sale" forum and a "wanted forum" similar to the HAMB would be something to consider. The current ads area is somewhat cumbersome to use IMHO.

Maybe a tech forum - might encourage the how-to type posts.

Just a couple thoughts.

Charlie

interesting.

I feel our classified section here is tops. Different sections that cover most automobile items........  The HAMB has 2 sections : " For sale & Wanted"

A few  cliks here and you have the ad placed.... with photo too.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Fat Cat on November 26, 2006, 10:16:23 PM
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "Charlie Chops 1940"I think a "for sale" forum and a "wanted forum" similar to the HAMB would be something to consider. The current ads area is somewhat cumbersome to use IMHO.

Maybe a tech forum - might encourage the how-to type posts.

Just a couple thoughts.

Charlie

interesting.

I feel our classified section here is tops. Different sections that cover most automobile items........  The HAMB has 2 sections : " For sale & Wanted"

A few  cliks here and you have the ad placed.... with photo too.


The other problem with setting things up like the HAMB is that we would have to hire someone to program the forum to work like they did over there. The templets would have to be created and incorporated into the software. I setup the one we have because someon had already done the work of programming and incorporating it into the forum. Between work, family and school I just do not have the time to learn the programming to do all that right now.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: n.c.rodder on November 26, 2006, 10:29:30 PM
Like alot of others, I partcipate in other boards, but by far this is my favorite. I may not post alot, but usually stop by every day just to see whats new.

I know many don't like change. :(  But  I think once in a while is a good thing. :D


Mike
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: junkyardjeff on November 26, 2006, 10:44:51 PM
I voted I did not care either way as I like it the way it is but if anyone can come up with some improvements I am for it,my minds drawing a blank on what should be done.  My problem is I am a member of too many groups and its hard to participate in all as there are quite a few I joined and only posted a couple times and if I do its months inbetween times.  Jeff
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: tom36 on November 26, 2006, 10:49:46 PM
I don't post often but am here every day.  Most technical questions get a proper reply from Enjenjo,or Crosley if it's transmissions or Bob Paulin can usally post an in depth answer, so i don't usually reply to something that has already been answered.  I agree that some of you are good friends and banter amongst yourselves, but that's fine with me.  I DO like this board because it seems to be more adult and professional than others. I know that I can ask a question or post a reply without  getting into some of the petty bickering that goes on elsewhere.   Tom..
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: purplepickup on November 26, 2006, 10:58:54 PM
When I suggested an "Off Topic" and possibly other forums I was trying to figure out a way that we could get more people to look at the index page.  If a couple of interesting forums were there maybe more of us would visit it.   I was thinking that many of the features Fat Cat has given us could be visible from there and more of us might bookmark that page instead of the Roundtable forum that most of us have bookmarked now.   I think that splitting things up too much would not be good tho.

Fat Cat verified my suspicion that hardly anyone visits, or even knows about the many features of the site.  My suggestion wasn't to increase the posts to unmanageable numbers.  It was meant to enhance our experience here with some minor tweaking to make things easier to access and using more of the features that we already have.

I hear what ONE37TUDOR is talking about too.  I've got friends that tried to post here and felt like they were intruding on a personal club.  They weren't deliberately made to feel like an outsider, they just did.  Many of us have met and developed friendships over the years so we talk to each other in a more personal way.   I'm grateful for that but I can see how someone new would lose interest quick.

Anyway, good info so far.  Keep it up. :D
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on November 26, 2006, 11:10:54 PM
I should clarify my statement on changes needed..

An O/T section would be good from the stand point of the 'shootin the breeze' posts do drive information posts down the line up.

There are some members that do great tech articles of building of parts & pieces on other boards , yet they do not post that tech stuff here.   Why?

Perhaps PPUTRK guy is on to something with this page bookmarked and not the main forum listing page?

FATCAT has pointed out that this place has many features and usually answers are posted to all questions in a timely manner.

Have you guys visited the 'events' page lately?  Read the date on the events listed there.

8)   carry on.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carnut on November 26, 2006, 11:15:30 PM
Quote from: "purplepickup"When I suggested an "Off Topic" and possibly other forums I was trying to figure out a way that we could get more people to look at the index page.  If a couple of interesting forums were there maybe more of us would visit it.   I was thinking that many of the features Fat Cat has given us could be visible from there and more of us might bookmark that page instead of the Roundtable forum that most of us have bookmarked now.   I think that splitting things up too much would not be good tho.

Fat Cat verified my suspicion that hardly anyone visits, or even knows about the many features of the site.  My suggestion wasn't to increase the posts to unmanageable numbers.  It was meant to enhance our experience here with some minor tweaking to make things easier to access and using more of the features that we already have.

I hear what ONE37TUDOR is talking about too.  I've got friends that tried to post here and felt like they were intruding on a personal club.  They weren't deliberately made to feel like an outsider, they just did.  Many of us have met and developed friendships over the years so we talk to each other in a more personal way.   I'm grateful for that but I can see how someone new would lose interest quick.

Anyway, good info so far.  Keep it up. :D

Ok, why do you need more folks to post?

What would enhancing our experience here be?

Wouldn't it kinda be a better idea to discuss changes when someone complains about something?

Do you know what interesting forums 'other' people are looking for?

Do you think folks are having a hard time finding the other features on the site because they can't find them?

Do you think possibly folks are here just for the discussion forum?

Fraid I like things simple and don't like change for the sake of change.

Guess a guy who can keep the same cars for 30 or 40 yrs dosen't like a whole lot of change.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Normspeed on November 26, 2006, 11:18:00 PM
This is a great forum and a lot of really good members.  I don't post much mainly because I don't have the level of expertise a lot of the members have.  I never rebuilt an automatic trans or a rear end, I haven't learned to weld, stuff like that, so I don't have much to add to the excellent info that's being posted here.  I do visit at least once a day to see what everyone's up to.

Also, I do a lot of my forum visits while at work (shhh don't tell).  And for some crazy reason, for the past few months I can no longer sign in to post messages to this forum from work. I tried deleting certain cookies and all, even changed my password, but I can only get signed in from home.  At work I'm in as a guest and can't post or reply.  Probably a firewall or some other techno thing that I don't really savvy.  

I like the forum as it is, and glad it's not the HAMB.  Lotsa good folks over there but also there's that strange undercurrent of hostility.  

I'm gonna go post something in the gallery.  I missed that one.  I knew about members rides but not the gallery. :0-0

Oh yeah, and Grandadeo is my bestest bud, so I can keep track of him at the RRT.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: phat rat on November 26, 2006, 11:29:51 PM
I like it the way it is, but will adjust if needed. As far as the CLUB/FAMILY, I value the friendships I've made here. I don't go to the forum page as I have this one in my favorites so I'm guilty of not making the numbers bigger. Lets not go to big or get into the BS of seriously ridiculing others or as its been said before lets keep it a clean site.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: moparrodder on November 26, 2006, 11:44:21 PM
I voted it don't mater either way, I like it the way it is but some change would be ok with in reason.  I try to visit every night when I finally get home from work but since harvest started I've been putting in an average of 85 hours a week at the elevator and am dead on my feet when I get home so I don't log in every time but do read the posts.  One change  I would enjoy would be a garage scene like some mags have with a few pics and update on your project, and after a couple of months could be moved to the gallery or droped to make room for new ones so as not to tie up the data base.  I have this site in my favorites and when I click on it the index page comes up first, that way I can see any new members and which section I want to go to .  To me this is the best site on the web with great people participating, I know I'm not the sharpest chisel in the tool box but I will add to a post when I feel I can.  I have to have some surgery in December and if it goes like they tell me I'll be off work for three month so I'll be here a lot more it just will take a while to post with one arm and hand straped to my side.  So what ever you decide to do I'll adjust and go with the flow and as Daryle said I'll be here for the long haul.    Bill
Title: Rodder's Roundtable
Post by: loiselle on November 26, 2006, 11:45:48 PM
I agree with Charlie ... I think a "for sale" forum and a "wanted forum"  like HAMB would be nice additions.  

I also think a tech forum would be real helpful.  I am building my first rod at age 63 and am not a mechanic.  It has been an unreal experience, but alot of folks have been real helpful.

If it were not for my neighbor, Dave Berry of Monarch Transmission, my 1930 Ford pickup would probably be in the junk heap.  He has been a life saver.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: enjenjo on November 26, 2006, 11:46:15 PM
I am not looking for a ton of new members. As Fatcat mentioned, we have over 400 members that have never posted. Hopefully this post will get some of them out in the open. I would just like to see some of the members we have post more. There is a lot of interesting stuff being done in our garages.

As far as a clique, I have endeavored to make every one feel welcome, and to feel accepted. However, it's hard to ignore the fact that some of us have known each other for 10 years now, and have shared the high and low points of our lives.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carnut on November 26, 2006, 11:55:55 PM
Quote from: "enjenjo"I am not looking for a ton of new members. As Fatcat mentioned, we have over 400 members that have never posted. Hopefully this post will get some of them out in the open. I would just like to see some of the members we have post more. There is a lot of interesting stuff being done in our garages.

As far as a clique, I have endeavored to make every one feel welcome, and to feel accepted. However, it's hard to ignore the fact that some of us have known each other for 10 years now, and have shared the high and low points of our lives.

Well then, you want more members to post more often.

For some folks it's a lot easier to comment on something than to bring up something new to talk about.

Looks like you've been doing pretty good posting questions for looking for answers.

Also posting topics like your latest project is pretty good, but several I have seen seem to just be 'here it is' without actually asking for comments on anything in particular.

Really enjoyed the project series on the antique dirt track racer project.

I suspicion you all (owners, operators, moderators) need to just keep posting more by yourselves seeding posts that would in themselves solicit general interest and comments.

Hopefully you won't get into the HAMB posts of asking for pics of such and such mobile that no one else has asked for, trying top each other on the wierdest request.
Title: Change
Post by: bowtietillidie on November 27, 2006, 12:51:03 AM
I personally like the board the way it is .If I were to change anything I would add two forums.   1  a well thought out Tech Section one that is easy to search .  2  A forum for our garage's ----- the good the bad and
the ugly and how it can be changed, also a section on tools .  home made,new, and little tips that make a job go faster and essayer .
 As for my posting I have always felt that I don't communicate well to any one I can't see while I am talking.  Also when a question is asked it is answered before I can find the keyboard.
Title: Re: Change
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2006, 01:03:53 AM
Quote from: "bowtietillidie"I personally like the board the way it is .If I were to change anything I would add two forums.   1  a well thought out Tech Section one that is easy to search .  2  A forum for our garage's ----- the good the bad and
the ugly and how it can be changed, also a section on tools .  home made,new, and little tips that make a job go faster and essayer .
 As for my posting I have always felt that I don't communicate well to any one I can't see while I am talking.  Also when a question is asked it is answered before I can find the keyboard.

Now, one thing that I've noticed on another forum I frequent, is that when certain types of posts are noticed to be similar the forum moderator either asks the posters if 'such and such' type of posts should be gathered in a forum/catagory of their own or maybe the moderator just realizes it's needed and creates a new forum as needed to place such posts.

The mention several times of 'forum for tech posts' and 'forum for garage posts' and even a forum for 'project posts' brings this to mind.

Not that the post shouldn't be posted in general to start with but to gather them after awhile and just move them to a catagory grouping that fits them all together. Then if posters want to post in that forum/catagory new things, they are welcomed to. Or regular posters can be directed to the forum/catagory with a link placed in an answering post in the regular forum if or when they happen to post something applicable.

Would just be part of the process of moderating the forum.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: enjenjo on November 27, 2006, 01:58:17 AM
Keep it up, I'm listening.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2006, 02:27:39 AM
Quote from: "enjenjo"Keep it up, I'm listening.

Well now, we could get all sorts of theoretical here and discuss what kind of a forum are you wanting?

Some folks/forums are really into almost being a chat group, continuous activity and posting and interactions.

Some folks/forums are kinda like newspapers, postings that a lot of folks just like to come and read what's up with the latest happenings and activities.

Some folks/forums are more like resources or libraries of information with some knowedgeable minders around to help find/answer a question.

Some folks/forums I kinda think of as a continuing game of chess, folks log in daily or at intervals and 'make a move' post so to speak and then wait for someone else a little later to respond or 'move'.

Much as I hate to say it, sometimes the 'mine is bigger than yours' posts are good for bringing out a lot of bench riders/lurkers to post jocular defenses of their own.

Guess it needs to be decided what the result you want and then work on how to make it happen.

Course I'm kind of a believer in evolution and just going with the flow with some nudging along the way to whatever result may occur.
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carps on November 27, 2006, 06:58:47 AM
Quote from: "Rayvyn"Being as how I was one of the original 10 when this board started up over 11 years ago, I've witnessed that it's had a few turmoils and twists and turns, but the diligent work of a select few has kept this one of the more successful boards running. A few others have failed, and a couple of others have grown by leaps and bounds.
Some people keeping their mouths shut has helped too.   :wink:

QuoteBut as others have said, I think the most important ingredient in keeping this forum the best one out there is the people on it. Spending time together at shows, or helping each other with one project or another, or participating in the trials and tribulations of fellow members, or by just posting in a friendly jousting way, everyone seems to be friends to one degree or another.
Just for that I'm going to come visit again..... soon.   :shock:  

QuoteOne knows that by posting here, he or she isn't going to get chewed up and spit out by smart alecks with attitudes for not following the "rules", or be chastized by a bunch of self important know-it-alls that look down their noses at beginners or non-conformists.
Whata about smart alecks without attitude?   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

QuoteBeing a member of this forum is like putting on a pair of slippers, sitting by a warm fire on a chilly night and sitting back in your favorite chair while reading your latest car magazine...It's relaxing and comfortable. And informative.
What?  Not snuggled up with your favourite Dolly?   :shock:

QuoteI've always been behind the folks that run this board, and have supported whatever they wanted to do with it, because it's been a winner in my book for years now. But a few points that others have offered do stir my interest a bit.
I do wish you wouldn't say things I have to agree with.  This place was the best back then and remains one of the best along with that other Aussie board, what's it called again?  

QuoteAn off topic section would be good to look at.
It works over on the other side, but not always.  Some kinda forget what it's for or don't think rodders should be able to discuss other issues on a 'rodding forum'.

QuoteWhatever you Big Kahuna's decide to do is okay with me. But I'm still going to pick on Dave and Vance, even if it's in the OT section... :D
It's OK with me too, and I'd like to be allowed to continue to pick on Da Rayvyn, even when he thinks I'm not paying attention.   :twisted:
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: chopped on November 27, 2006, 08:04:12 AM
Bit of a surprise getting an E-mail from the group as I haven't been around for a year or so. Among other things, George asked for opinions so heres mine as to why at least one guy wandered off.  After a couple years I concluded it was an internet group where personal contact counted for a lot and not being close enough to participate in your gatherings somewhat excluded me from the board. I stopped a couple years at Louisville and except for the two people famous for spreading goodwill was was ignored when I tried to strike up a conversation. Now try not and get me wrong here, I really didn't see much wrong with the attitude, just that you were more like a family not very interested in "outsiders".   On the other hand, when I set up my 700r4 a personal E-mail recieved a complete and helpfull response, go figure.  Skip
Title: Changes needed?
Post by: BFS57 on November 27, 2006, 08:06:51 AM
Hello;
Between the turkey and having 4 days off and re-wiring my daily driver, I haven't had time to do much internet.
I pretty much like the forum the way it is. I have not tried to post photos because I am not a computer guru that can figure out "why won't it go!".
With my luck It will be as difficult as possible!
I like most of the post because I get a chance to transfer some knowledge I have to someone that wants to learn something or be totally silly!
I think some change is good but just what, I don't know.

Bruce
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carps on November 27, 2006, 08:13:35 AM
Quote from: "chopped"After a couple years I concluded it was an internet group where personal contact counted for a lot and not being close enough to participate in your gatherings somewhat excluded me from the board.
The personal contact deal I always considered a bonus.  A pretty big bonus but a bonus all the same.  And as part of that deal i have a whole bunch of fantastic personal buddies and some incredible memories of or adventures.  But again it's still all down to this place as the starting point.

QuoteI stopped a couple years at Louisville and except for the two people famous for spreading goodwill was was ignored when I tried to strike up a conversation.
I'm sorry that happened, but I can understand it too.  I always leave feeling frustrated that i haven't spent enough time with each and every person.  Fact is I know it's stupid to feel that way because there's just not enough time available to catch up and spend time with everybody I'd like to.

QuoteI really didn't see much wrong with the attitude, just that you were more like a family not very interested in "outsiders".
I usually emvbrace outsiders, it's my brothers and sisters I tend to ingnore.   :wink:

QuoteOn the other hand, when I set up my 700r4 a personal E-mail recieved a complete and helpfull response, go figure.  Skip
Kinda proves my theory that the personal contact deal is a bonus.  :wink:
Title: Re: Changes needed?
Post by: Carps on November 27, 2006, 08:16:14 AM
Quote from: "BFS57"Between the turkey...

Was that directed at me or The Rayvyn?   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2006, 08:38:22 AM
OK, more thoughts on the subject, not to just worry the topic to death but.

Been watching the Turner Movie Channel  were they have been discussing 'what makes a cult movie?'.

How does one make a cult movie?

Well, one dosen't, no one can make a cult movie, an audience makes a Cult Movie. Cult movies become one when a movie has something that attracts a certain following in an audience.

Kinda the same for a forum, ya really can't really make a forum, a group of posters make a forum.

But, something needs to draw and keep posters once a poster shows up.

Again that responsibility is usually the owner/operators/moderators or 'hero' posters who keep posting things of interest to the other posters, or keep the conversation going with the other posters.

Now here is one thing that will probably get me poofed real quick for suggesting it.

You all might consider a somewhat more pleasant color scheme that might be more inviting to more posters.

Setting a color scheme to satisfy one's own preferences might be cool, but might not be the most pleasant thing for the rest of the folks.

I know that I am put off with the current color scheme and can't spend too much time here before having to leave to avoid something akin to seasickness.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: old yeller on November 27, 2006, 08:42:01 AM
Anything can be improved.  That being said, I think the board is OK the way it is.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: purplepickup on November 27, 2006, 09:14:31 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
You all might consider a somewhat more pleasant color scheme that might be more inviting to more posters.

I know that I am put off with the current color scheme and can't spend too much time here before having to leave to avoid something akin to seasickness.
I don't care for the color scheme either but you do have a choice.  Go into your profile and change the Board Style setting to HRI Layout instead of RRT Layout.  The blue colors are much more comfortable for me.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: 58 Yeoman on November 27, 2006, 09:46:04 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Been watching the Turner Movie Channel  were they have been discussing 'what makes a cult movie?'.

How does one make a cult movie?

Well, one dosen't, no one can make a cult movie, an audience makes a Cult Movie. Cult movies become one when a movie has something that attracts a certain following in an audience.

Kinda the same for a forum, ya really can't really make a forum, a group of posters make a forum.

But, something needs to draw and keep posters once a poster shows up.

I voted number 3.  Talk to any psychobabbleist, and they'll tell you that men are resistant to change (more so than women are).  Move my recliner over a couple inches, and it'll be right back where it was before.  Carnut stated it best; you can't make a cult movie any more than you can a 'cult forum'.  (I've got a can of shaving cream in the cabinet that says 'collector can #2'. :roll:).  This is the first site I visit when I come online (even before the Honda site), mainly because it's 'user' friendly and full of knowledge.   I more or less like the site the way it is, but if you add something now and then, it's not really a change, but a nice addition....easy to handle.

The site as it is is easy to navigate and follow.  You can also ask questions about newer stuff and get replies (I mean, not everyone drives their antiques/rods as an everyday driver).  Seems like everyone here has some expertise that can help someone out with a problem.  The Honda site tried an O/T board, but it was cancelled, as it got out of hand (you think HD riders are radical, try Wing riders :shock: ).  

I've only had the opportunity to meet one RRT member in person, and I've seemed to mess that up, for which I'm sorry.  I've wanted to get to the get togethers in Ohio or Utah, etc., but home projects just seem to take precedence...maybe in 07.

Fatcat and enjenjoe, and the moderators, keep up the good work.  It's your board, and you seem to be doing something right to keep it a premier site; biggest isn't always best (the cult thing, you know).  PurplePU, thanks for the tip on the colors.  That'll wake me up in the morning. :lol:
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Jimmy Jay on November 27, 2006, 10:01:47 AM
I voted wishy-washy.  Change is sometimes good.  A couple other forums I spend way more time at have "off topic" forums and I've stayed FAR away from them; they get some real wackos and flamers posting there.  I don't visit any BB for that kind of abuse.  Help me when I need it, accept my advise when you ask for it (you don't have to follow it but don't criticize if you don't), and otherwise leave me alone, thanks.

Since I haven't visited here in months I have very little to complain about and even less to try to change.

If the past is any judge, I'll check back here around the 4th of July!

Enjoy and be careful with space heaters this winter!

Jaybo
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Stevie G on November 27, 2006, 10:05:20 AM
I just don't have the time I used to.
That is going to be changing so, maybe now I can chime in a little more often.
Title: just a thought no biggie
Post by: Ed ke6bnl on November 27, 2006, 11:13:31 AM
I could suggest that there were different types of delivery of watched messages, daily, instant, and weekly.  
 
the other thing it is nice when you read the forum there is a symbol that lets you know you are subscribed to the topic  while you are scanning the messages  
non are biggies but just a thought.  thanks for all the good work and classy people on the group Ed ke6bnl
Title: Tutorials
Post by: EisenMark on November 27, 2006, 11:20:57 AM
I'd like to see a thread of tutorials from very basic things to advanced.  There are things like this in the forum from time to time, but no set section for them.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: sirstude on November 27, 2006, 11:59:07 AM
My $.02 on the issue of being a board for those who know each other.  It can seem that way at times, mostly for those of us who don't live in the midwest, but just hang in there and pipe in.  Everyone seems to put up with me, and until a couple of years ago I had never met anyone from the board and didn't figure to ever do so.  The I made the pilgrimage to Bonneville and started meeting the guys.  Just don't give up on the group just because we haven't met.  

Doug.

ps, (Way off Topic) for those who have not, put Bonneville down on your 'Must do" list.  Great time and a good excuse to meet some of the RRT (and H.A.M.B. members) who show up there. And not that expensive, the Good Guys show in Spokane costs me 3 or 4 times as much as going to Bonneville.
Title: Lack of posting
Post by: CalifCarl on November 27, 2006, 11:59:46 AM
I for one come to hot rod sites to learn and share experiences. And to just have some fun!

But I pretty much walked away when it looked like you needed to, let say pay to post, or be part of the club.  I do that to much already and don't need to add the expense.  

I frequent a couple other sites, the HAMB and the SRT.  The Hamb is going the same way with the Alliance Member thing. Pay to be part of the club.  And the SRT has become pretty much a dud.

I realize these sites don't run for free, but they were offered to users for free.  If I have read into this wrong let me know.  The RRT was always a viable site for prodominantly good information.
Title: Forum changes
Post by: rltaylor46 on November 27, 2006, 12:29:35 PM
Since I'm so new to RR, I try not to form too many opinions.  I do like the idea however, of having some sort of topic index.  Often, using the current search results in having to read through numerous posts that are only related to my search by one word.  Does that make sense?  Of course, not being all that computer savvy just adds to the difficulty. Overall though, I think highly of RR.  I especially appreciate that those of you who are professionals at building cars don't come off like elitists and prima-donnas (sp?).  Seems that folks all are kind to one another, and genuinely try to help.   :)
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: msuguydon on November 27, 2006, 01:30:21 PM
Quote from: "jusjunk"
Quote from: "Rayvyn"Whatever you Big Kahuna's decide to do is okay with me. But I'm still going to pick on Dave and Vance, even if it's in the OT section... :D


Thank You..
I dont really care my self. Lets face the facts were all friends here and its a close nit group> I dont ever see this board being the HAMB style board. Sure they got tons of people over there but they or i should say Ryan puts a lot of time into it.  Maybe you should tell us what your thinkin instead of asking us to vote for a change :?: Im with wzjunk. change if you must and ill go along but  :?:  :?:
Dave

I am new to this board but have been active on a sports related bulletin board for over 6 years.  That board started out small it grew to a nice size, people were friendly and respectful of one another and we got to know each other through reading each others posts, we could joke and pole fun at each other, eventually at sporting events we began to meet each other face to face.

That board became very popular, I credit much of the success to what I just told you about the board.  That board now IS HUGE, with about 110 people on line at any given time and thousands of members.

I still go and enjoy the board but its not necessarily respectful, it can be hard to read because of the sheer volume of posts etc., I am not sure I want to meet many of the people that do post.  

All I am saying is, bigger is not always better, but it's up to the board founder and moderators to choose how they want their board to grow, and how fast and at what cost.  

I am too new to give you my 2 cents.  I will say this however, my experience here, although very short, has been very, very nice.
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: enjenjo on November 27, 2006, 01:54:59 PM
Quote from: "CalifCarl"I for one come to hot rod sites to learn and share experiences. And to just have some fun!

But I pretty much walked away when it looked like you needed to, let say pay to post, or be part of the club.  I do that to much already and don't need to add the expense.  

I frequent a couple other sites, the HAMB and the SRT.  The Hamb is going the same way with the Alliance Member thing. Pay to be part of the club.  And the SRT has become pretty much a dud.

I realize these sites don't run for free, but they were offered to users for free.  If I have read into this wrong let me know.  The RRT was always a viable site for prodominantly good information.


No, you don't need to pay to play. Of course the board has some costs attached, but as long as I don't have to dig too deep, it will stay the way it is, voluntary. I don't forsee that changing. If the expenses get too high, I'll let you guys know before anything is changed. By the same token, those who do support the RRT deserve something for what they do in the way of recognition.

I am not really looking for more members, just more activity. Too many more members would change the whole feel of the place in my opinion.
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: bombcan on November 27, 2006, 03:03:12 PM
Guess I'll put my 2 cents in also.   I've been a member here for quite a while, migrated over when one of the other sites got too hostile.

I posted some here, always went to chat every Sunday night, until my wife and I purchased a cabin at the lake.  We always left the lake and went to work on Monday morning, so I didn't have internet access on sunday night.  Later on, one Sunday night I dropped in,  but I realized than no-one there knew who I was.   I lurked for a while and dropped out.


I never have posted much because if it's a mechanical related question, there are so many here that have more knowledge. I don't want to show my ignorance.

And after such along time away I'd feel like an outsider posting a question, photos or telling about my new projects.  So I guess that's put me on permanent lurking status.
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: OldSub on November 27, 2006, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: "enjenjo"I am not really looking for more members, just more activity. Too many more members would change the whole feel of the place in my opinion.

I agree too many members would change the feel, but then looking at some of the other responses, I've realized that part of the feel is also part of the problem.

A couple have mentioned the opportunities to meet face to face and the mid-west events.  Way out here on the far side of Seattle I do feel like I'll never really be a part of Ohio/Michigan group, and therefore never more than a peripheral member of this group.

But I don't know how you change that without loosing some of the friendly everyone here is a friend feeling it has now.

I lurk to keep track of some interesting people and projects, and because some real good tech appears here.  I would not want those aspects ever to go away.  In fact if change is necessary, I'd want to see it enhance the tech and the community.

But if I invite everyone to a BBQ west of Seattle next summer could I expect anyone to come?
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: Fat Cat on November 27, 2006, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: "CalifCarl"I realize these sites don't run for free, but they were offered to users for free.  If I have read into this wrong let me know.  The RRT was always a viable site for prodominantly good information.

I don't want this to sound rude but your wrong. We have never told anyone that if they do not offer up some money they would be denied access here. There are expenses associated with running this place. If you actually read the items posted on the support page at http://www.roddingroundtable.com/members/bannerad.html you will notice that it states, "No users will be denied access to any of the basic services of this site because they don't provide monetary support. This is a voluntary program that is for you the users to show support for the services we provide." That text is highlighted in red text. It is that way to draw attention to the fact that supporting the site is voluntary. As Enjenjo said we don't feel that it is right for people to support the site and not have something to show for it. For the first time recently we actually gave those supporting users something that was not available to regular users. That feature being the ability to create individual image galleries. But at the same time regular users still have the ability to post images in the public galleries.

No one should ever feel as though they are required to support us. The percentage of users that do support us allow this site to operate without too much expense out of mine or enjenjo's pockets.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: phat rat on November 27, 2006, 06:10:25 PM
For those who don't live in the mid-west. If you travel  places other than your own local area do you go and meet people from the board? I've met guys on their home ground in Az. Tx. Fl. Ut. Ca.  the mid-west  plus meeting people at the NSRA nationals from all over. As Enjenjoe said some of us here have known each other personally for quite some time. Some on here I knew before before the board existed or I even had a putor. I've never heard of anyone deliberately excluding someone other than the occasional spammer that comes here. So Wed. night 9:00pm is chat time how many will make it.
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: CalifCarl on November 27, 2006, 06:22:06 PM
Quote from: "Fat Cat"
Quote from: "CalifCarl"I realize these sites don't run for free, but they were offered to users for free.  If I have read into this wrong let me know.  The RRT was always a viable site for prodominantly good information.

I don't want this to sound rude but your wrong. We have never told anyone that if they do not offer up some money they would be denied access here. There are expenses associated with running this place. If you actually read the items posted on the support page at http://www.roddingroundtable.com/members/bannerad.html you will notice that it states, "No users will be denied access to any of the basic services of this site because they don't provide monetary support. This is a voluntary program that is for you the users to show support for the services we provide." That text is highlighted in red text. It is that way to draw attention to the fact that supporting the site is voluntary. As Enjenjo said we don't feel that it is right for people to support the site and not have something to show for it. For the first time recently we actually gave those supporting users something that was not available to regular users. That feature being the ability to create individual image galleries. But at the same time regular users still have the ability to post images in the public galleries.

No one should ever feel as though they are required to support us. The percentage of users that do support us allow this site to operate without too much expense out of mine or enjenjo's pockets.


Fat Cat no rudeness taken.  The comment that I read may have been from another poster.  No big deal either way.   I see it at the HAMB big time.  Statement like only Alliance Member can use the want adds and the such. But then again it's the users making these suggestion.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2006, 06:29:45 PM
George thanks a bunch for the info on the alternate color scheme possbility.

Obviously I hadn't noticed it was a choice in the 'profile'.

Now posting in a much more pleasant environment, course that dosen't help much for those lurkers and drivebys checking out the site.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2006, 06:42:33 PM
Unoh, as I spend about 99.9% of my time here as just a lurker, that changing of the color scheme in my profile dosen't really help all that much.

Not sure I would like having to log in just to read the forum in more pleasant colors.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Dave on November 27, 2006, 07:08:54 PM
did they do the want adds for just alliance members on the Hamb? I havent followed that lately. I do see the justification by doing that cause there were people trying to run a business with rod parts at ryans expense. Thats bs but if you give someone an inch they will take a mile.
Dave
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: CalifCarl on November 27, 2006, 07:19:09 PM
I don't think they have yet, but there was talk of it.
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: Broman on November 27, 2006, 07:30:49 PM
Quote from: "CalifCarl"

Fat Cat no rudeness taken.  The comment that I read may have been from another poster.  No big deal either way.   I see it at the HAMB big time.  Statement like only Alliance Member can use the want adds and the such. But then again it's the users making these suggestion.


Well, looks like you're wrong all the way around CaliCarl. Never seen anything like a pay-to-play here, and the HAMB is as far from pay-to-play as they come.

I think that I would live here if it were not for the HAMB - no disrespect, and I realize there are many dual members floating back and forth so I know non will be taken...I men look at me, right?

For me - it's the member involvement in events and get togethers, the feeling like I can trust fellow HAMBers -because Ryan would have my back if I were double-crossed, and the fact that the HAMB hasn't sold out just to gain members (with a constant flow of t-shirt sales and the like).

The members step up and hold auctions and make donations and it just keeps getting bigger and better.

The fact that the shirts only come around once in a while and when they do - you get 'em while they're hot. After they are gone - they're gone. Supply vs. demand ya' know?

The bad news - you can't create that kind of thing artificially. I mean - you can't go to a member and tell him or her that it's their turn to contribute...

So as far as this kind of thing - I think you just have to keep watering the orchid - some day it WILL bloom.

If I had any advice as far as the forum goes...I don't know I guess I'd say that you could use a make-over. It never hurts.

That's part of the appeal of a web site - the appearance. If it creates a mood before you even read a word - it is doing something to appeal to more readers.

Look at the magazine rack. You see the cover of one magazine and you either want to see more or you pass it up for the next...If you like it well enought to pick it up and leaf through it - whatever you see on the inside better live up to the cover or it's back onto the rack...

Look at Garage magazine (if you haven't already). It is a good looking piece inside and out. It makes you want to read whatever is in there....which I still haven't done yet!!!  So if the content of the articles are bad - it still got me to look. I doubt if that's the case - but hey if the content and the appearance complement one another - they have a winner...

I think if you just put together a really nice, classy looking format - you'd go a long way towards your goal.

Either way I am sticking around (even if I don't post much).
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: CalifCarl on November 27, 2006, 07:47:47 PM
Quote from: "Broman"
Quote from: "CalifCarl"

Fat Cat no rudeness taken.  The comment that I read may have been from another poster.  No big deal either way.   I see it at the HAMB big time.  Statement like only Alliance Member can use the want adds and the such. But then again it's the users making these suggestion.


Well, looks like you're wrong all the way around CaliCarl. Never seen anything like a pay-to-play here, and the HAMB is as far from pay-to-play as they come.

I think that I would live here if it were not for the HAMB - no disrespect, and I realize there are many dual members floating back and forth so I know non will be taken...I men look at me, right?

For me - it's the member involvement in events and get togethers, the feeling like I can trust fellow HAMBers -because Ryan would have my back if I were double-crossed, and the fact that the HAMB hasn't sold out just to gain members (with a constant flow of t-shirt sales and the like).

The members step up and hold auctions and make donations and it just keeps getting bigger and better.

The fact that the shirts only come around once in a while and when they do - you get 'em while they're hot. After they are gone - they're gone. Supply vs. demand ya' know?

The bad news - you can't create that kind of thing artificially. I mean - you can't go to a member and tell him or her that it's their turn to contribute...

So as far as this kind of thing - I think you just have to keep watering the orchid - some day it WILL bloom.

If I had any advice as far as the forum goes...I don't know I guess I'd say that you could use a make-over. It never hurts.

That's part of the appeal of a web site - the appearance. If it creates a mood before you even read a word - it is doing something to appeal to more readers.

Look at the magazine rack. You see the cover of one magazine and you either want to see more or you pass it up for the next...If you like it well enought to pick it up and leaf through it - whatever you see on the inside better live up to the cover or it's back onto the rack...

Look at Garage magazine (if you haven't already). It is a good looking piece inside and out. It makes you want to read whatever is in there....which I still haven't done yet!!!  So if the content of the articles are bad - it still got me to look. I doubt if that's the case - but hey if the content and the appearance complement one another - they have a winner...

I think if you just put together a really nice, classy looking format - you'd go a long way towards your goal.

Either way I am sticking around (even if I don't post much).

I never said pay to play was a requirement.  But if it makes you feel better to call someone wrong, just because you never read it, so be it.

The HAMB has exploded over the years and the members contribute what looks like a boat load of money.   I'm not trying to point out any trouble or disrepect.  But in the same thread on the HAMB where it was suggested that only Alliance Member could sell, Ryan was talking about freeloaders.

I have bought and sold over there, very little.  Even frame boxing plates from Engenjo.  I've bid in auctions, but never won one.  But I have never just donates straight up.  I would guess that would put me in the freeloader class.   Maybe not what he ment.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: jaybee on November 27, 2006, 08:20:25 PM
Yes, I'd say something needs to change to improve "eyeball count" but darned if I can say for sure what that would be.  Probably that's a good thing and it speaks to the fact that this is my automotive home on the internet and I'm comfortable here.  I'd like to see more build pics/stories and tech info, but then again I'm not doing my part to provide that content.

As for flashing icons there's a whole chunk of the internet that's about that sort of thing Bryan, no need for that here.  :)
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: Broman on November 27, 2006, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: "CalifCarl"

I never said pay to play was a requirement.  But if it makes you feel better to call someone wrong, just because you never read it, so be it.

The HAMB has exploded over the years and the members contribute what looks like a boat load of money.   I'm not trying to point out any trouble or disrepect.  But in the same thread on the HAMB where it was suggested that only Alliance Member could sell, Ryan was talking about freeloaders.

I have bought and sold over there, very little.  Even frame boxing plates from Engenjo.  I've bid in auctions, but never won one.  But I have never just donates straight up.  I would guess that would put me in the freeloader class.   Maybe not what he ment.



Wrong again.

Ryan isn't trying to cut down on freeloaders at all - it's the deadbeat buyers/seller he's trying to axe.

And I am not an Alliance Member so I have no reason to be "selling" the idea.

The whole "Alliance Members only" for the classifieds isn't in play. Ryan is trying to work around it....

BTW, I'm not being a snot here - just pointing out the facts.

Besides - I didn't come here to promote the HAMB - I came to help RTT....

and my advise is to explore the creative/artistic side - not the functionality.

It's a message board for cryin' out loud - all you need to do is post and reply to messages!!

A graphic upgrade will make more folks who are just passing through - stop and take a longer look. Which gives us the chance to keep them - even if only a slight chance. But some is better than none.

The only thing that keeps me away from here is the types of cars...

I'm not an IFS/SBC/over-the-counter type of guy, and that's the bread and butter crowd here.
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2006, 08:55:47 PM
Quote from: "Broman"
I'm not an IFS/SBC/over-the-counter type of guy, and that's the bread and butter crowd here.

Hey, if God didn't want SBC's in early Fords he wouldn't have made them fit so well.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Rayvyn on November 27, 2006, 09:10:35 PM
Quote from: "jaybee"

As for flashing icons there's a whole chunk of the internet that's about that sort of thing Bryan, no need for that here.  :)

Maybe you're right...
The thought of a small version of Enjenjo pulling a trenchcoat open to reveal a sign that says "Check this out" every time a new Tech post was made, is a bit sqeamish... :shock:  :D
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: Broman on November 27, 2006, 09:20:52 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Broman"
I'm not an IFS/SBC/over-the-counter type of guy, and that's the bread and butter crowd here.

Hey, if God didn't want SBC's in early Fords he wouldn't have made them fit so well.

If god wanted SBCs in Fords he wouldn't have built the flathead....
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2006, 09:25:07 PM
Quote from: "Broman"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Broman"
I'm not an IFS/SBC/over-the-counter type of guy, and that's the bread and butter crowd here.

Hey, if God didn't want SBC's in early Fords he wouldn't have made them fit so well.

If god wanted SBCs in Fords he wouldn't have built the flathead....

Naw, Henry was just too hard headed to listen to God when he laid the 11th commandment on him.
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: Broman on November 27, 2006, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Broman"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Broman"
I'm not an IFS/SBC/over-the-counter type of guy, and that's the bread and butter crowd here.

Hey, if God didn't want SBC's in early Fords he wouldn't have made them fit so well.

If god wanted SBCs in Fords he wouldn't have built the flathead....

Naw, Henry was just too hard headed to listen to God when he laid the 11th commandment on him.


It wasn't god's commandment that put a SBC in a Ford - that was a SIN.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2006, 09:37:40 PM
Well, I guess Ford does have one saving grace, they did produce the 9".
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2006, 09:51:26 PM
I've also been wondering why, since you run banner ads, that you don't also Google Text ads on the forum?

Google Text ads are what's keeping me alive.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: sal37 on November 27, 2006, 09:55:53 PM
Recently there appears to have been a reduction in the number of posts and only relatively few of the broad members posting (and often not completely hotrod orientated).  

I regularly visit the site but don't always login and am selective in what I look at.

The board has a great depth of knowledge and for people like myself (limited hotrod experience and not much to constructively contribute) it really does help to have RRT as a backstop - and I met some great people when Neil and I visited in 2004.  

To me the construction aspect could be separated out and the for sale/wanted/ebay items area could be improved.  But apart from that the board is a great place to come for a bit of relief from the daily toil.

I don't think that posting anicdotes about the goings on of my two young children will be what people want to hear about - and thats about where I am in my life cycle!!

Steve
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Broman on November 27, 2006, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: "sal37"Recently there appears to have been a reduction in the number of posts and only relatively few of the broad members posting (and often not completely hotrod orientated).  

I regularly visit the site but don't always login and am selective in what I look at.

The board has a great depth of knowledge and for people like myself (limited hotrod experience and not much to constructively contribute) it really does help to have RRT as a backstop - and I met some great people when Neil and I visited in 2004.  

To me the construction aspect could be separated out and the for sale/wanted/ebay items area could be improved.  But apart from that the board is a great place to come for a bit of relief from the daily toil.

I don't think that posting anicdotes about the goings on of my two young children will be what people want to hear about - and thats about where I am in my life cycle!!

Steve


There's nothing wrong with not posting - traffic is traffic.

And I wish more folks knew how to use the search function back at the HAMB...so many posts on the same topics...
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: rooster on November 27, 2006, 11:14:12 PM
I see nothing wrong about  the small changes mentioned, perhaps a lounge may help! This would keep rod related tech threads on top,encourging input or participation!

I think a growing tech section is vital. Those communications of posters unloading their ideas for your or someone elses benefit should not be taken lightly  even if YOU already "know all about it", someone else may not!   It wasn't that long ago that a lot of posts were lost because of format change or software requirements ! Maybe this would protect
these selected post .

I can say that I have, for the most part, made a lot of posts over at CT because it just makes sense that I zero in on the type of car that we are working on, its the right audience! I refer people over there to the good post made here on tech stuff.  I'm sure to some degree these specialized forms or user groups are gobbling up knowledge seekers. I come to the RRT every day and checkout whats going on, answer something if I can. I
have voted for a change. Good luck whatever you decide to do.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Crosley.In.AZ on November 27, 2006, 11:32:44 PM
Couple of items I see mentioned.

Off topic area for stuff like I posted on my new grand kids.  Did I mention they were twins?  One boy , One girl ... :wink:  :wink:

A project / under construction  area to sorta bring folks up to date on what yer building?

We have a tech area , so that can take care of tool discussions , building / adapting  parts, & completed projects like adapting disc brakes or a rear suspension install.

The current tech area is posted articles....... should we change that to a forum discussion like this?  Or  both?

8)

As some folks mention , I do not want this site to get heavy with different sections.

I do not fully understand the negative comments on the classified section.... Have you guys looked at the ad section since the update?  It seems easy to use to me.  Pick a category to read or view all of them

First ad post takes a little time , then it's easy. You can also go back to add or edit stuff in the ad.


Keep the suggestions coming.


8)
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: enjenjo on November 28, 2006, 12:21:45 AM
Well, I am impressed with the responses on this post, there was a lot of thought put into them. Keep them coming.

I can see some areas that we need to work on, tech being one of them. Last spring I tried to get some tech posts by offering prises, there wasn't much participation. I'll see what we can come up with.

I see that if some of you used the index page as a home page, rather than the general forum, that would help too.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Jokester on November 28, 2006, 12:55:39 AM
I like it the way it is.  It's the first site I look at and the last before
I shut down.  It's without a doubt the most hospitable bunch of people on
the web.  It's nice that I've met several of the members and put faces with names.

I'm sure any changes you make will be for the better.  I have confidence in your abilities.  Thanks for the survey and giving us a chance to comment.  Mostly thanks for running a great website.

BTW, I received an e-mail requesting my opinion of needed changes.  My reply to it failed...twice.  The address was  forums@roddingroundtable.com.  What's up with that?

.bjb
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: enjenjo on November 28, 2006, 01:05:29 AM
It failed because it was a no reply Email.
Title: Change
Post by: butch27 on November 28, 2006, 09:31:26 AM
I learned while driving race cars that a change is not always an improvement.  I'm good here.  I do like builds in progress to see how others have done things.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: GPster on November 28, 2006, 10:51:35 AM
Here I am but I have been watching and reading this since it started. I don't need any changes but I'll learn to live with any that come along (are we married?) I do have some comments. I certainly read and learn from the OT subjects and it is great that the authors have been labeling them as such. What is hard for me to followis when a subject goes off topic. If the subject is something I have started to follow (as most of them are because I spend hours on this site every day) I may read the comments from start-to-finish to try and weigh pros/cons whys/why-nots. I'm not trying to become an expert but I am amazed how experts think and sometimes an author and his comments might strike a cord where I can pass the comment the as an idea later on ( my handle is GPster but sometimes arCHIVE come into focus). It is particularly hard to make any sense of a subject when it starts out in the automotive realm and turns into a discussion as to why sheep walk cross-legged along the sides of the road in Texas. If there was a fork in the road on each subject so that when the discussion started to go ot some of us could stay on the straight and narrowand some of you could head out to that subjects'  "booneys". Some way that wouldn't delete them but might separate them from the subject's main stream of education .                                                  The second comment is on the classifides: I lurk on a few other sites just to read the Classifides. I like the way ours is set up without all the useless banter and BTT or re-posting rules. I read those other sites for enjoyment but if I wanted to buy or sell something I would particularly like to do it our way of Buyer-to-Seller. What might be nice would be if at the top of our Forum page next to the Clasifieds  would be a little hanger that stated when the last new listing was. That would just tell us whether to go there or letting us know that we are as up-to-date as it is.                                                                       One offer that I might make or incourage someone else to make: As an example every time someone puts a Mustang II front end kit in a vehicle they wonder what coil springs to use. Not all the answers are found in only those questions and a search of only the archieves of that subject will miss those comments. Going back to the ot s of sheep in Texas a request of Mustang II front coils is likely to bring a herd of them running. Maybe if someone (me?) where to scan the archives from a disc and pick out all of the Mustang II stuff and put those bits of topical educcation on another disc so that new disc might serve in addition to pictures of doing one type in one make/model. Now hopefully I have at least helped by offering a novel for someone that wanted to sit down and relax with a book. GPster
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: CalifCarl on November 28, 2006, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: "Broman"
Quote from: "CalifCarl"

I never said pay to play was a requirement.  But if it makes you feel better to call someone wrong, just because you never read it, so be it.

The HAMB has exploded over the years and the members contribute what looks like a boat load of money.   I'm not trying to point out any trouble or disrepect.  But in the same thread on the HAMB where it was suggested that only Alliance Member could sell, Ryan was talking about freeloaders.

I have bought and sold over there, very little.  Even frame boxing plates from Engenjo.  I've bid in auctions, but never won one.  But I have never just donates straight up.  I would guess that would put me in the freeloader class.   Maybe not what he ment.



Wrong again.

Ryan isn't trying to cut down on freeloaders at all - it's the deadbeat buyers/seller he's trying to axe.

And I am not an Alliance Member so I have no reason to be "selling" the idea.

The whole "Alliance Members only" for the classifieds isn't in play. Ryan is trying to work around it....

BTW, I'm not being a snot here - just pointing out the facts.

Besides - I didn't come here to promote the HAMB - I came to help RTT....

and my advise is to explore the creative/artistic side - not the functionality.

It's a message board for cryin' out loud - all you need to do is post and reply to messages!!

A graphic upgrade will make more folks who are just passing through - stop and take a longer look. Which gives us the chance to keep them - even if only a slight chance. But some is better than none.

The only thing that keeps me away from here is the types of cars...

I'm not an IFS/SBC/over-the-counter type of guy, and that's the bread and butter crowd here.

You can call me wrong if you want, but everything I have said exits in a thread at the HAMB.  this one http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138587

I can see Ryan's intent and I have no problem with it.  

I received an email basically asking for input for my not posting.  And it was the trend or my preception of things becoming a "Pay to Play".  Even the donation section on this site leads to this way.  But with the disclaimer in red at the bottom that you are not required to donate.  

My answer again is the preception of  what was coming.
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: Broman on November 28, 2006, 11:32:15 AM
I'm not going to get into a * match here.

And I'm not yelling at you either (it's very hard to read the intended tones over a message board) and I am certainly not trying to single you out.

I just wanted the point to be made that there has not been any kind of pay-to-play here or there. And the mere mention of it on the HAMB should not be misconstrued. That's it. That's all.

Besides none of the options being explored were going to interfere with the real attraction - which is the message board.

I for one don't give a good crap about the classifies here, there or anywhere...


If I really needed to get rid of something there are a thousand ways to do it. Sure I'd like to give a fellow HAMB or RRT member a better shot at the deal - but if I really need the money, I'll sell it one way or another - message board or not.....


GPster

Sounds to me like you want a Tech section....I can see that being a big plus.

I'll second that.
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: CalifCarl on November 28, 2006, 11:45:45 AM
Quote from: "Broman"I'm not going to get into a * match here.

And I'm not yelling at you either (it's very hard to read the intended tones over a message board) and I am certainly not trying to single you out.

I just wanted the point to be made that there has not been any kind of pay-to-play here or there. And the mere mention of it on the HAMB should not be misconstrued. That's it. That's all.

Besides none of the options being explored were going to interfere with the real attraction - which is the message board.

Broman I'm not wanting a * match either, but you can't bury your head into the sand and say it hasn't been mentioned or implied at either site.  Go to the donation page here  and tell me it doesn't say that the days are coming that more paid member options or benifits maybe coming.

The thread at the Hamb is even more obvious.  And to think your broke a... is included.   Not trying to be disrespectful, I can't justify an Aliance Membership either.  But I won't follow sheep just to follow.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: jaybee on November 28, 2006, 12:02:11 PM
"I'm not an IFS/SBC/over-the-counter type of guy, and that's the bread and butter crowd here."

That's very interesting Broman, because I never saw it that way.  Certainly the doors are wide open here beyond the "traditional", but I've always thought of RRT as being more open to home built solutions than a lot of other boards.  At some sites posters will come right out and say "why would you build that when 1-800-hot-rods has a perfect solution?"  When I think I'm getting an attitude like that this is where I normally go for a reality check.  You're probably right that most of the cars here are set up with IFS & SBC, maybe that's because they're good solutions, affordable, and within the skill set of a typical garage builder.  If people are negative toward other solutions that would be wrong, but it also would surprise me.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Broman on November 28, 2006, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: "jaybee""I'm not an IFS/SBC/over-the-counter type of guy, and that's the bread and butter crowd here."

That's very interesting Broman, because I never saw it that way.  Certainly the doors are wide open here beyond the "traditional", but I've always thought of RRT as being more open to home built solutions than a lot of other boards.  At some sites posters will come right out and say "why would you build that when 1-800-hot-rods has a perfect solution?"  When I think I'm getting an attitude like that this is where I normally go for a reality check.  You're probably right that most of the cars here are set up with IFS & SBC, maybe that's because they're good solutions, affordable, and within the skill set of a typical garage builder.  If people are negative toward other solutions that would be wrong, but it also would surprise me.


I hate to use you own words against you - but yea, the SBC/IFS stuff really bugs the crap outta me. IFS on a rod looks as bad (to me) as putting a big wing on a Honda and calling it cool. And fiberglass bodies - not even concidered. Not to bring up a hot button word - because I would use it if I had access to it (and it fit in style wise) - but billet aluminum is even further off of my taste pallet. That puts me in a huge minority here. There are a bunch of guys who are just a-Okay with all of these things. And that's fine, I'm cool with the live and let live mindset. I'm not calling anyone a goldchainer or anything - I am simply saying that the end results of the projects being built here, no matter what budget, don't do it for me like a rod that is steeped in traditional style.

I do however have a great respect for the craftsmanship and the knowledge base here - that's why I'm here. I always listen when someone wise speaks up. Conversely I can't shut up when someone makes blanket statements and generalizations.

And don't go thinking that the HAMB is infallible. There are lot of guys (kids too) building rods that I think are way too over the top. I have been to shows that other HAMBers just loved the crap out of - and I left those shows disappointed at the overuse of decals and the way-too-low or over chopped cars. I also see a lot of shotty craftsmenship and rough-on-purpose stuff that eats at me....I used to call them out at the drop of a hat - but if I kept doing that, I'd be all day at it - so I've curbed that urge.

So basically - I like the trad stuff and I like that I can have any - and I mean ANY - question answered in a half day.

That's where the value is for me - not the classifieds and not the membership plaques and clubs and blah blah blah...

Fer cryin' out loud a guy made his own nailhead valvecovers just the other week. And that's just one of the great posts I've seen in the last few weeks. You're not going to see a guy do that with a SBC. Anyone who does that for a SBC is wasting their *' time and money. But I am getting off track. (I feel like I am being forced to defend my preferences in stead of tackling the issues).

You want to help this site? I think I will put my two votes in for the following

-> a stylistic makeover  - I'm starting to get lippy now, but the feel of this forum/website is (no way to put it nicely), a little flat. It could have some "wow" or other appeal.

I think if it were my place - I'd poke around the internet and find some good looking sites and take notes...


-> a Tech section. Address the common issues - ask for specific tech weekly/monthly or whatever. Lay it all out until you have all of the components laid ou tin articles....It's something to drive towards and it will hopefully spur member participation.

Knowing that all builders are at different stages in their respective builds - you could have a "Just Starting" post and a "Finishing Touches" post side by side....there's a ton of good reasons to go with this kind of thing.

When you get this thing fired up and there is a whole section dedicated to this stuff - people who are "googling" IFS tech will see this stuff pop up. Then when they google SBC on duece rails - will see it pop up again...after awhile the searches get filled with RRt tech artys. Traffic!

man I got me some lungs, don't I?
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: GPster on November 28, 2006, 02:41:38 PM
Quote from: "Broman"GPster Sounds to me like you want a Tech section....I can see that being a big plus.I'll second that
This is a reason that I read the old posts on a subject from start to finish. I have trouble being understood (sometimes I don't understand myself). What I'm trying to say is there's a hell of a lot of tech already here that is repeated because there doesn't appear to be anyway to find it. I'm just wondering if there couldn't be something between "I'll just ask. I know it's been mentioned before but why bother looking for it" and "I've answered that question so many times before. I'm not even going to try this time. Doesn't anyone pay attention?" There are people here that are experts but their knowlege on a partcular subject doesnt always all  come out on one question at one answer. There is also a lot of "This didn't work" information that is valuable that doesn't appear as answers to a question. My statement was not for wanting something but for wanting to help. GPster
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Leon on November 28, 2006, 02:58:48 PM
I think the biggest change I'd like to see is how it handles new posts.  When I come to the site I click on where it says "There are: 8 new messages"  and that takes me to new posts since my last visit, but the problem is when I click on the topic that has the new post, like this thread, it takes me to page one of five where I have to then go to the last page, then scroll to any posts that look new, then catch up on what's happening.  Many sites automatically take you to the last read post, or first unread post, so you can read it then respond or move on.  Maybe a minor point, but it saves a lot of time.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: purplepickup on November 28, 2006, 03:29:45 PM
Quote from: "Leon"I think the biggest change I'd like to see is how it handles new posts.  
Leon, instead of clicking on the topic try clicking directly on the page number.  That should take you right to the page you picked.

Edit*  I didn't read your post that well earlier.  I see that you're talking about unread posts not just the threads that have unread post in them.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: jaybee on November 28, 2006, 05:13:58 PM
Broman, you have provided a great deal to think about...as has everyone else.  Certainly I don't perceive that you're calling me out on anything and I sure don't plan on calling you out either.  Traditional is awesome, is very hot right now, and will always have a place in rodding.  I have something a little different in mind, however, something that makes it hard to find a place to fit in.  Not traditional, so the project as a whole will not fit the HAMB.  More Pro-Touring, but that segment is oriented toward pony cars and muscle cars rather than 50s cars.  Chevy Talk is great, but the Tri5 Modified board has an almost restorer mentality except for bolt ons unless you're capable of magazine-quality fabrication.  I'm leaning toward a GM Gen4 V8 which suggests LS1tech.com, but without a late Camaro/Firebird and a desire to put 500hp on the ground I can't spend all my internet time there.  So, where does it all come together?  Rodders Round Table!
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: GPster on November 28, 2006, 07:16:04 PM
Quote from: "jaybee"Broman, you have provided a great deal to think about...as has everyone else.  Certainly I don't perceive that you're calling me out on anything and I sure don't plan on calling you out either.  Traditional is awesome, is very hot right now, and will always have a place in rodding.  I have something a little different in mind, however, something that makes it hard to find a place to fit in.  Not traditional, so the project as a whole will not fit the HAMB.  More Pro-Touring, but that segment is oriented toward pony cars and muscle cars rather than 50s cars.  Chevy Talk is great, but the Tri5 Modified board has an almost restorer mentality except for bolt ons unless you're capable of magazine-quality fabrication.  I'm leaning toward a GM Gen4 V8 which suggests LS1tech.com, but without a late Camaro/Firebird and a desire to put 500hp on the ground I can't spend all my internet time there.  So, where does it all come together?  Rodders Round Table!
We're not about trying to find a group for you to fit in. We're about a group that anybody can fit in *! I'm talking like I'm somebody). Please excuse. GPster
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: enjenjo on November 28, 2006, 09:06:00 PM
I guess it's time to explain some things, and give an idea of where we are headed. The software we are using is PHPBB. This is a shareware program, that is priced in a range that we can afford. There are some limitations with this program, that are difficuly to work around. That's why you are not taken directly to the last unread post among other things. As soon as it's released, we will be switching to a newer version of the software, but it hasn't happened yet.

As far as the theme of this site, we like Hot Rods. That can include traditional cars, street rods, boats, Lakes and Bonneville racing, oval track, Pro Touring, drag racing, off road, or any other type of modified car you can come up with. Powered by gas, diesel, propane, olive oil, alcohol, or any other fuel you can come up with. The only rule, there are no rules. Our cut off date is 1850, any thing before that is off limits. :lol:

Now lets touch on billet. By the dictionary definition, a billet is a block of most ant material used to make something. It can be wood, metal of any type, stone, rubber, or many other materials. According to some traditionalists, real hot rods don't have billet. The fact is, the originators of this stuff used billet. They cut filed and shaped a block of aluminum into a fuel block. Later they decided they could make it faster and cheaper by casting it, so they could be sold to those who couldn't do it themselves at a reasonable price. Now I understand that "billet" in the context used was meant to mean CNC machined. But if you look close, a lot of the "billet" is die cast, just like they did it back in the day. I don't feel if I spent a day carving parts out of aluminum with a saw and a file, that I am using billet parts.

Now, lets take on the SBC. Revisionist history would make you think that  they weren't around until the late 60's. I'm here to tell you that is wrong. One of the nicest traditional cars I know had a new 265 installed in it in the fall of 1955. Outside of wheels, the car is still the same. In 1958 a buddy built a 32 5 window with a fill house 53 Merc motor, and sold it in a couple months, because it wouldn't keep up with a new Ford or Chevy.

A lot of the problems with not finding things can be solved by making the index page the home page rather than the general forum. Some of the features you are asking for are already here, but they are not being used. We plan on doing some things that might make it easier to use them, but they are there already.

The calender page was mentioned, many, including me, have posted events on the general board. The calender page is actually the place for it. I'll try to direct things that way.

On Tech, I will start doing tech weeks again, but I need some participation. I'll try to come up with some worth while prizes. And none of my own tech stuff counts. :lol: When it is deemed worth it by the moderators, it will be posted in the tech section. Hopefully we can group similar tech threads, so you can find it all in one place.

We need someone willing to step up, and take care of the events page, or a couple somebodys. Neither fatcat or I have been able to find the time. Some help here would be appreciated. Now if anyone has picture posted on the net they would like to share, continue to post the address to the forums, but if you need a place to post them, WE HAVE ONE.

On the chat, there are quite a few people that use it, I would like to see more. we can have more than one chat a week if that is what you want. I remember Bombcan coming in a few weeks ago, I wondered why he didn't stick around. All I can say, is jump in, at first a chat like ours can be confusing, but it gets better with practice. There may be several conversations going on a the same time, sometimes with funny results, but don't be afraid to add another. Another thing, if you don't post to the chat at least once every 5 minutes, it will throw you out, so keep posting.

Down in the lower left corner of each post is a block that says XML RSS2. If you download the free software, you will be notified any time a subject your are watching is updated.If you are running Firefox, or IE7 they already support it. Otherwise you will have to download a RSS reader.

More later.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Charlie Chops 1940 on November 28, 2006, 10:32:32 PM
Quote from: "Fat Cat"
Quote from: "Crosley"
Quote from: "Charlie Chops 1940"I think a "for sale" forum and a "wanted forum" similar to the HAMB would be something to consider. The current ads area is somewhat cumbersome to use IMHO.

Maybe a tech forum - might encourage the how-to type posts.

Just a couple thoughts.

Charlie

interesting.

I feel our classified section here is tops. Different sections that cover most automobile items........  The HAMB has 2 sections : " For sale & Wanted"

A few  cliks here and you have the ad placed.... with photo too.


The other problem with setting things up like the HAMB is that we would have to hire someone to program the forum to work like they did over there. The templets would have to be created and incorporated into the software. I setup the one we have because someon had already done the work of programming and incorporating it into the forum. Between work, family and school I just do not have the time to learn the programming to do all that right now.

That's fine Frank - it was just a thought - I'm not a computer person so I have no idea what any sort of change might entail. I'm not holding the HAMB up as the end all, be all by any means.

Charlie
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Dave on November 28, 2006, 11:24:30 PM
I would like to see the RRT split into sub sctions to make finding articles easier. Having General, Tech, Events and Off Topic in seperate sub forums makes it easier if you are looking for something specific. If someone has a prticular 'lean' toward tech they can concentrate their time there. Of course this can go overboard and get split into too may areas but the advantage is that you can make new areas if required. The Ozrodders forum for example has grown considerably and is easier to manage this way. I still visit here when I can!
Dave Petrusma
www.ozrodders.com/board
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Rayvyn on November 29, 2006, 08:54:59 AM
Quote from: "GPster"[                       We're not about trying to find a group for you to fit in. We're about a group that anybody can fit in. GPster

That pretty much sums it up right there... :b-d:
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: donsrods on November 29, 2006, 11:29:08 PM
I voted for change, mainly because if anything stays the same it gets stale.  This is a very tough subject, because if we say we want it to change that must mean we don't like it the way it is now. Nothing could be further from the truth, at least for me.  I liked this forum from the first time I posted, and that is because of the members and the way the forum is conducted. There is one forum in particular that I really can't get into because of the attitude of some of the members and the language that is constantly used there. I am no prude, by any means, but I just don't like to see every other word the F one.  Nor do I like the way posters are jumped on for the smallest infraction.

I have never seen that here, or on the other two forums I participate in. I would like to see more activity going on here, and surf the other forums because I get bored if nothing is going on.  I know there are a lot of lurkers here who just flip in and out, and it would be nice if there were a way to get them to say hi once in a while.

I have also thought of just jumping in and starting a thread on a car I am building, but I have worried that it might be viewed as me trying to come across as a know-it-all.  I am doing exactly that on the other two forums, because it seemed there were a lot of beginning rodders there who had questions as to how to do something or other, and I felt they might pick up a tip or two. It seems the threads have been accepted ok, so I continue to add to those threads occasionally.  I also get the impression that most of the members here are seasoned rodders, and need no tips from me.

So, I guess if I had any changes I would like to see it would be to increase posts and have a little more going on to hold people's interest a little more.  Maybe we also need to determine the demographics of our membership and find out if there are some people who are just starting their first build, and who might benefit from the vast experience available on here.

Don
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: enjenjo on November 30, 2006, 12:08:37 AM
Don, even though I have built a number of cars, I can always learn from some one else. Even a guy building his first car, may have come up with something I had never thought of.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: mrloboy on November 30, 2006, 01:12:59 AM
As a shop owner, I feel I should not be asking for opinions from the members. The genre of the site is directed at the home builder and home-built hot rods. I would like to see a forum for shop owner/fabricators such as myself. I have built a lot of hot rods over the past 30 years, but can still learn a lot from other peoples experiences. Many of the home builders that are members here, can teach us veterans many shortcuts to achieve the end result my customers wants. The shop owners/fabricators have provided me with wonderful solutions to many of my current projects and I thank them for their info.
Of all the message boards that I frequent, The Round Table is by far my favorite. The members are informative and cordial. The bantering is light-hearted and friendly. Malice is left at the gate! The replies are put forth with great thought and the intelligence of the posting member is without question.          
I would not change much with this site. If the traffic gets any higher, I will likely lose interest!
I, myself am guilty of not posting or replying much. I spend all my time in
my shop. We have lots to do! (If anyone wants to live in the middle of nowhere and built hotrods give me a call!) I need a couple fabricators! Rick
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: GPster on November 30, 2006, 07:38:05 AM
Quote from: "enjenjo"Don, even though I have built a number of cars, I can always learn from some one else. Even a guy building his first car, may have come up with something I had never thought of.
Also Don, I wonder if some of this low posting is just  human nature. There are instances where we will all take something for nothing and there is so much information floating around here that a lurker may get his questions answered without ever having to ask them. So do you thank someone? Also, for someone like me (and I hope there aren't very many) having more than one name and being so spread out geografically might put someone in a total state of confusion. Who is talking what does he drive how can he maintain such an extensive library of knowlege and he must be terribly proud of his heritage by refering to himself as "Indian Joe"  wonder what strange ritual is performed by mowing the lawn naked and where the hell is Swanton? Because there are no rules other than try to fit in, not talking may be someone's way of fitting in. This site will never know how much it gives me and I'm always trying to figure out how to give some back but offering help on some up-to-date gathering of information scares the hell out of me. But that's me. Maybe while we don't expect anything from anybody we should be more understanding when that is what we get. GPster
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: SKR8PN on November 30, 2006, 11:42:52 AM
I can spend HOURS on Moparts.com, but it only takes me a few minutes to get caught up on the latest a greatest on this site. There is a ton of info hidden away on this site......but....It needs something to help step it up a bit.......Multiple forums is a good start.  Even though I am currently out of the street rod business,I still check in on my friends about every day.  :D
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: jaybee on November 30, 2006, 03:37:09 PM
"We're not about trying to find a group for you to fit in."

Good thing, since I've never been one to worry about fitting in.  I'd rather just find people that can tolerate me which is a more limited category!
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: jaybee on November 30, 2006, 04:36:17 PM
"I have also thought of just jumping in and starting a thread on a car I am building"

I'd love that!  I'm pretty new to the world of building things from the ground up and soak up anything I can get my eyeballs on.  Seems as if everyone has a little different way to build something and I hope to learn from every one of them.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: CalifCarl on November 30, 2006, 06:03:30 PM
LOL Just trying to get the notify me of new post off!

Broman you never did respond.  Hey Broman what kind of engine does Ryan have in that 38 of his?

Traditional?  Hmm do I fit in?  Do I care?  Nope, but I do resent that if I don't have the correct wheels and tires, I'm labeled as a Street Rodder. And I'm wrong if I want to call my car a Hot Rod! LOL at that.   Not that there is anything wrong with Street Rodder!  

OK I know I'm bad but in somecases I agree with Broman on the small block chevy thing.  The current Street Rodder has one of them.  I think it is a 55 or 56 Ford sedan sporting a SBC.  Not totally wrong, but they went as far as badging the valve covers with Blue Ovals.  Now that is over the top.

I digress, it's a hot rod and there are no rules, so do what turns you on!
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: spark on November 30, 2006, 08:27:16 PM
Well this thread has had a lot of response, speaking for myself; I have a look here about once a month and generally find friendly banter mixed in with some useful info. I don't post much and I find that if I visit more regularly not much has changed.

I also visit the H.A.M.B but it has a lot of posts and anything I post like questions, sink off the page in a short time. Also some of the methods used in the US are not accepted by our authorities. Split bones is one method admired by ozies and seen on a lot of cars in Australian magazines but our rules state that you can only split them by 300mm (1 foot).  :roll:      

I am a member of Ozrodders and it is interesting how that board has evolved – separating the info on building a hotrod from the friendly (and some times not so friendly) banter is sometimes a challenge. A long-term "view only" section for Tech is something I would love to see on all the hotrod boards I visit.  8)  8)      

Some topics of interest to me are- Engine and Drive train, Suspension, Body work/ fabrication, Tech section and a General section for banter (loosely related to hotrods). :roll:
And pictures, lots of pictures. :P  :P
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carps on December 01, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
Quote from: "enjenjo"On the chat, there are quite a few people that use it, I would like to see more.
I love a chat, unfortunately you guys like to chat when my body likes to sleep.   :(

On tradition, billet and cut-offf years, most know my views and I can see Enjenjo is on my wave lenghth.  Unfortunately not everybody 'gets it' or want's to, so we'll always be stuck with those dissagreements.  But y'know that's OK because it's what makes rodding interesting and fun, it'd be boring as bat's poop if everybody thought the same, said the same and built the same.

Some of my fondest memories and bestest frieds are a result of this place and I love the way it's evolved.  Even if you don't see me here as much as I was in the past, I'll still enjoy my lurking no matter what happens, just make sure it doesn't go away.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Nailheadforty on December 01, 2006, 08:24:34 PM
I haven't posted , as I can't seem to fine the time I would like to spend on sites such as this . So when I do visited RRT I'm usually just reading the posts, and replys. We have a group of very knowledgeable people out there. Its easy to pick up on some of their advise.
So until the next visit, I'm out of here!

Wouldn't really rather have a "BUICK NAILHEAD"
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Normspeed on December 02, 2006, 12:04:47 AM
Spark, is there a link to the Ozrodders forum?  The cars I've seen from down south are pretty awesome.

Quote from: "spark"Well this thread has had a lot of response, speaking for myself; I have a look here about once a month and generally find friendly banter mixed in with some useful info. I don't post much and I find that if I visit more regularly not much has changed.

I also visit the H.A.M.B but it has a lot of posts and anything I post like questions, sink off the page in a short time. Also some of the methods used in the US are not accepted by our authorities. Split bones is one method admired by ozies and seen on a lot of cars in Australian magazines but our rules state that you can only split them by 300mm (1 foot).  :roll:      

I am a member of Ozrodders and it is interesting how that board has evolved – separating the info on building a hotrod from the friendly (and some times not so friendly) banter is sometimes a challenge. A long-term "view only" section for Tech is something I would love to see on all the hotrod boards I visit.  8)  8)      

Some topics of interest to me are- Engine and Drive train, Suspension, Body work/ fabrication, Tech section and a General section for banter (loosely related to hotrods). :roll:
And pictures, lots of pictures. :P  :P
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: enjenjo on December 02, 2006, 12:21:03 AM
http://www.ozrodders.com/board/index.php
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carps on December 02, 2006, 01:11:56 AM
OH man that is a scary place.   :shock:

They must got some might powerful drugs down there!    

But where the XXXX is Lithgow Mick?    :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Ideas
Post by: bowtietillidie on December 02, 2006, 03:36:47 AM
I was reading on the Hamb and run across a post from a forum in Chicago    
they are having a class called hod rodding 101 .   This class only has room for about twenty people . It is a discussion on how to build a rod from the ground up.   starting with planing, gathering parts buying ahead of time and so on .    My Idea would be to start a discussion area and everybody could add their take on how to do this.    This would REALLY help the younger guy's    
as we all know this is what kills a very high percentage of builds with younger people and even some older guy's. Also it could be a money maker for the RRT .    After investigating problems of using others people's written word .    
it could be made into a book .   I know I would pay a good dollar for something like this.  It could start out small being offered at shows by the RRT meet and greet crew.     I will stop here as I have a million idea as to how this will help the RRT.
Title: Re: Ideas
Post by: GPster on December 02, 2006, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: "bowtietillidie"I was reading on the Hamb and run across a post from a forum in Chicago    
they are having a class called hod rodding 101 .   This class only has room for about twenty people . It is a discussion on how to build a rod from the ground up.   starting with planing, gathering parts buying ahead of time and so on .    My Idea would be to start a discussion area and everybody could add their take on how to do this.    This would REALLY help the younger guy's    
as we all know this is what kills a very high percentage of builds with younger people and even some older guy's. Also it could be a money maker for the RRT .    After investigating problems of using others people's written word .    
it could be made into a book .   I know I would pay a good dollar for something like this.  It could start out small being offered at shows by the RRT meet and greet crew.     I will stop here as I have a million idea as to how this will help the RRT.
A nice idea of uses for the archive. If someone could write a program that was not only "Printer Friendly" but also "Reader Friendly" GPster
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Rayvyn on December 02, 2006, 01:38:01 PM
Quote from: "Carps"OH man that is a scary place.   :shock:

They must got some might powerful drugs down there!    

But where the XXXX is Lithgow Mick?    :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Not a pretty sight, or fit fer wimmen and chilldrin... :shock:

I heard from Mick a couple of days ago. He said to tell everybody %##$
()%^  ^%$##^%  ^&@$%$   and  <%@#  &%@  and   :)( ...

Said he got evicted again, but doesn't know why... :cry:  :(D)
Claims he's nothing more than a shy, quiet, misunderstood Auzzie bloke... ~:)
Title: Re: A little RRT survey
Post by: EMSjunkie on December 05, 2006, 09:32:57 PM
Quote from: "Rayvyn"
Quote from: "Fat Cat"
Quote from: "Rayvyn"And one other idea I had was maybe a Gallery or photo album section like the "members rides" listing. A collection of photos showing the members at events, building their projects, helping each other, etc., would be fun to look at, and the photos wouldn't get buried in the archives after a few days. I would say give the pictures a week or two on the regular board, then move them into the "gallery" for easier finding.

There is a Gallery on the forum. It is located here http://www.roddingroundtable.com/forums/album.php it was added with the last round of forum updates.

Why am I always the last to know these things... :?:
Maybe if we had a flashing icon or something I would've known this... :lol:

Or maybe we can all pitch in and get ya a pair of BIFOCALS :lol:

or how 'bout a little hand that comes out and slaps ya up side yer pointy head :shock:  :wink:

Vance
Title: Re: Lack of posting
Post by: EMSjunkie on December 05, 2006, 09:59:49 PM
Quote from: "bombcan"I don't want to show my ignorance.

 .

that never stopped any of the rest of us :!:  :lol:

best way to get to know folks, is to start posting, thats what I did, and look where it got me :shock:  :roll:

y'all act like we're a bunch of snobs.......believe me, snobs we ain't :x

get into a conversation, post some replies, we can't talk back to ya ifn' ya don't speak up :wink:

ain't nobody on this board any better than anybody else. we all have our areas of expertise, and that is what makes this board so *' great :D

you can ask about any auto.....and some non-auto questions, and usually get a prompt, correct answer, without someone makin' ya feel like a dumbass :)

personally, I don't want this board to become more like the HAMB.
if I want that, I'll go to that site.

I do agree some changes are in order, some will prolly work, and some will prolly not work, but thats OK. thats why there is a big IF in the middle of life :?

alright, I'm gonna shut up now.......my meds are kickin' in 8)

Vance
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: EMSjunkie on December 05, 2006, 10:12:29 PM
Quote from: "enjenjo"Well, I am impressed  

I can see some areas that we need to work on, tech being one of them. Last spring I tried to get some tech posts by offering prises, there wasn't much participation.  

.

Thats 'cuz most of us ain't smart enough for a tech post.

I guess I could post my easy formula for figuring I.V drip rates :shock:

or my receipe for Bud Light Chili :-o

Vnce
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: bombcan on December 05, 2006, 10:22:28 PM
Thanks for the post Vance,  I'm still trying to catch up with everybody and everything, plus working two jobs and working on my cars, don't seem to get around to posting even though I check in often.

I'll try to do better and measure  up to the RRT standards, LOL
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: donsrods on December 09, 2006, 12:18:39 AM
If someone else posted this suggestion, sorry, I missed it.  I think one thing that would be nice is if the forum allowed our posted pictures to be larger. The 550 x 500 size is smaller than some other forums, and I have to crop my pictures to get them on here.  A 640 size would be nice.  Also, if we could post more than one picture per post. Most forums have a 5 limit. If there is a way to do that here, I am not aware, but I am computer stupid, so maybe there is.

JMO,

Don
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Carnut on December 09, 2006, 12:40:35 AM
Quote from: "donsrods"If someone else posted this suggestion, sorry, I missed it.  I think one thing that would be nice is if the forum allowed our posted pictures to be larger. The 550 x 500 size is smaller than some other forums, and I have to crop my pictures to get them on here.  A 640 size would be nice.  Also, if we could post more than one picture per post. Most forums have a 5 limit. If there is a way to do that here, I am not aware, but I am computer stupid, so maybe there is.

JMO,

Don

On some of the forums I frequent it is usually suggested that you get a photobucket account and to post your pics there and then post a link to them here. That helps both on the storage space of the forum and the bandwidth used by the forum.

Getting a photobucket type account is usually free and posting the pic here is then real easy, just click on the (Img) tag, then past the photobucket link then click on the (Img) tag again, then click on (Preview) to make sure you got it right before you click on (Submit).
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: Fat Cat on December 09, 2006, 01:25:54 AM
Quote from: "donsrods"If someone else posted this suggestion, sorry, I missed it.  I think one thing that would be nice is if the forum allowed our posted pictures to be larger. The 550 x 500 size is smaller than some other forums, and I have to crop my pictures to get them on here.  A 640 size would be nice.  Also, if we could post more than one picture per post. Most forums have a 5 limit. If there is a way to do that here, I am not aware, but I am computer stupid, so maybe there is.

JMO,

Don

Well to answer both of your questions. There is a 10 image limit per post. When you do the browse and add attachment for the first one. All you have to do is browse for the next one and add the next attachment. Which you can add up to 10 images per post.

In the other issue. The limit is setup at 550x500 is because anything wider than 550 pixels breaks the page layout for the site. I will probably up it when I do a redesign of the site.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: purplepickup on December 11, 2006, 02:33:45 PM
I took the sticky off this thread.  It has pretty much served it's purpose and some really good discussions and suggestions came out of it.  Thanks everyone! :D

If anyone has more they would like to add, please do.
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: sirstude on December 11, 2006, 03:15:21 PM
What do you think you are George, a moderator or something, taking the sticky off.   :wink:  :wink:  :wink:

Doug
Title: A little RRT survey
Post by: purplepickup on December 11, 2006, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: "sirstude"What do you think you are George, a moderator or something, taking the sticky off.   :wink:  :wink:  :wink:

Doug
Yeah, I'd better watch it....all that power is going to my head :lol:  :wink:

Actually I think anyone can take a sticky off a thread they started.
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