The Rodding Roundtable
Motorhead Message Central => Rodder's Roundtable => Topic started by: idrivejunk on February 13, 2021, 08:46:24 PM
I walk past ye olde and wrong reducer selector each time I use the garaged car and yesterday although it was near freezing in there I noticed something that made me stop, look, think, take pic for here now and carry on...
Theres a thinner recommended for use at 35°F. :shock:
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this week your ppg needle would have been right between the P and G on the bottom RIGHT around here ! -54C on about mid week . 8) very 8) . At this temp , boiling water tossed in the air will all turn to steam , nothing hits the ground .
I've not seen one of those. The last time I worked in a paint shop was 1972. :)
I wonder if boiling cleanup thinner hits the ground. :? :lol:
Chills are around minus ten here. Might get enough snow to drift.
Speaking of drifting, I was just out scoring tacos and spied a Panther Marquis utilizing the middle school parking lot for RWD snow play. That was the observation, the thought was hmm with EFI that could be me. :idea:
Speaking of 1972, last night I observed the best Cannon episode yet in my binge. Frankly (pun intended) it has been a bit laborious thus far. Straight out of the gate theres Martin Sheen wrecking a Harley, a Molotov cocktail, then theres dirtbikes galore, TNT, .38 special plus full auto gunfire, good and bad bikers, and a sturdy woman with a fine shape. All that was bonus material though, I kept wondering when the new was gonna wear off the Mark IV so they could be mean to it. Half throttle reverse drop thru a garage door was the reward for my diligence. :)
There was a donut attempt, really just a dusty squealy U turn and that prompted me to investigate via wiki since theres never a peep of exhaust note from the 460 4V. Plummeting from 365 in the previous year, HP was at 212 then. While the Lincoln was the only six passenger rig among it's competitors and beat some on MPG by a nose... it was over a second slower 0-60 than the rest. Ouch.
Wanna see it now? Here-
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9IIiCoMY9jM&list=PLjQjhXGNCC86MK4h_u1Ipzi1CxE-X5LlM&index=17
That'll help pass the day if you are into that. My thought on the reducer selector is that if someone were to ask me if there are any advantages to lacquer I would have said no. But that'd be wrong. You can use it when its 40° in the booth! :lol:
Left out 4x4 from that list of episode goodies... theres a moment when he leans on a square Bronco pretty hard crossing a ravine. Good cringeworthy front suspension thump. Such action! :) The budget-eating aircraft and boat bits were played out in previous episodes but this one sure packed in (relatively) the us-level gearhead stuff.
Its a boredom thread. :roll: What else do you got?:)
The brass monkey on the porch is in trouble tonight. :) I watched sewing how to videos this afternoon. How boring is that? :)
Cannonballs will be rolling around the deck, eh?
I did some garment repair this week myself. Sewing by hand. :-o
Observing -15 now with -24 wind chill. :shock: Thinking thats the coldest I have ever witnessed. Shoveled the driveway for about five minutes yesterday and that was just about a foolish move. Now heres your silence back, guys. Sorry I interrupted. :oops:
Wow, -15 is pretty darn cold 500 miles north of you.
Definitely uncommonly wintery. Temps finally rising, hoping for just freezing by the weekend. I am back to work and boss would like to work through that. But this is the current situation at home-
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Probably looks just like some of you guys' places normally do for months at a time.
Our snow was over a foot deep in october . Should see grass in april , I hope. Usually snows here before end of october and stays until at least late march on a nice year . I have seen it snow here in every month but july and august . Winter (snow) usually lasts for 5 months or so.
Forgive me for sometimes wanting to say it, but if you take pride in those facts, I just can't understand why.
I have never heard an explanation for why anyone would want to live in a place like that. Its like when Marshall Dillon encounters pioneers living on the prairie and sticking to it. I continue to wonder. So many things, for example fuels of all kinds. So incredibly much more must be burnt. It has to cost an arm and a leg to do anything. Vehicles being destroyed by weather in such a short time, etc.
There has to be some advantage, some justification beyond blooming where you're planted. Best I can figure, it must go back thousands of years to when tribes clashed over hunting and fishing rights. Better spots to settle must have been all taken, or migratory paths of food sources must have been followed, or maybe attempts at relocation of man on foot were not survivable?
That has always been a point I ponder, especially during the forum using years of life. Very few people whose locations have more balanced seasons use them. That part I get. But people can choose where to live and that part eludes me. Probably always will. The list of things I can not understand just keeps growing and the older I get, the more mysterious things like that become.
Thats intended to convey a thought, not be a jab. So many inhabitants of the frigid north express so much frustration with conditions and remoteness of location that I just can't see how or why anyone would make it their home. So I wonder in perpetuity and urge all to pursue their own happiness, and would try to not mind somebody setting me straight. :?
Well the first thing, it's much easier to warm up than it is to cool off. In the south they spend as much cooling off in the summer as we do warming up in the winter.
Plus for many of us this is where our families live. I don't know about you, but I have a big family. I have 43 first cousins, and many of them live in this area.
Family is why I'm here, but theres not much left. I just gotta wonder if its the women, y'know? Could be that. Or the food. Or the combination of those. Far north or south, food gets wierd but bland is what I like, being raised in Kansas.
The climate control expense point may depend on the setup. Boss says it costs pfft nothing to run the A/C but the heat is a gigantic deal.
I know the natives were not a'feared of the cold. It takes all kinds to make the world go around but from where I sit it looks like an awful harsh environment and more dangerous and laborious way of life and its just hard not to wonder. Thats all.
FWIW, living near coastal areas is just as puzzling. To me. Just doesn't have to do with winter. Forecast is for 50 and sunny here... Monday of course. I won't wonder then, as much. About that. :)
IDJ no offence taken. I dont like poisonous snakes , we have none . In the summer we get sun till way after 10pm sunrise before you get up . Snow mobiles, hockey , skiing (I do none of these ). summer is rarely hotter than 85F . My favorite season is spring. Winter air is fresh , no bugs ,pollen or dust. Used to make snow forts in winter . Lots of folks ice fish. I was born here and its what I am used to . I feel kinda sorry for immigrants when they first experience winter as the cold is not something they are prepared for. Its also not as hard on your car to go drifting as opposed to doing it on dry pavement. When it snows lots you just push it away , not so when you guys get floods. I have never actually seen a tornado in person. Have you ever seen the northern lights (aurora borealis)
Quote from: "chimp koose"IDJ no offence taken. I dont like poisonous snakes , we have none . In the summer we get sun till way after 10pm sunrise before you get up . Snow mobiles, hockey , skiing (I do none of these ). summer is rarely hotter than 85F . My favorite season is spring. Winter air is fresh , no bugs ,pollen or dust. Used to make snow forts in winter . Lots of folks ice fish. I was born here and its what I am used to . I feel kinda sorry for immigrants when they first experience winter as the cold is not something they are prepared for. Its also not as hard on your car to go drifting as opposed to doing it on dry pavement. When it snows lots you just push it away , not so when you guys get floods. I have never actually seen a tornado in person. Have you ever seen the northern lights (aurora borealis)
Top notch response! :)
The aurora would be a bucket list item if there was one. If I made the effort to catch a view of it, there would be clouds until I had to leave. That and the bloom where you are planted factor are legit. To me. What I just can't get my mind around, besides disproportionate fuel consumption for warmth, is that the outdoors will kill you if given the slightest mistake of a chance. I ain't man enough to buck nature as a lifetime endeavor. Brrr!
I never ice fished, snow skiied, rode a snowmobile or had interest in hockey, and never been snakebit, flooded, or tornado'ed either. 85°F is comfortable to me. Grape likes it between 50 and 85. I like that such a great percentage of days are usable here. But theres three times the laundry for example in winter, and it takes like a third more gas to do the same thing. And if you stick a wheel in a slush pile and get stuck or high centered... you can die pretty fast from it. Like I said, I just ain't man enough. More for you guys.
Quote from: "kb426"I've not seen one of those. The last time I worked in a paint shop was 1972. :)
Old guys always have one of those! :lol:
Also still working on the 32.
Does that mean I'm old yet, BlueTip? :D
Our selectors look different, one must be older. Wonder whose? :wink:
Mine doesn't work, soooo :roll: Probably newer :lol:
This, on the passenger side doesn't work either, well. The light inside it does though, last time I checked. If you smack it a time or two. The letters are around here somewhere. Obviously not updated during this or the previous decade. Needs a couple fives now. Came across this pic while hunting another. :)
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There was yet another snowblindingly brilliant observation, or two, this week.
Small plant across from work manufactures sauces (oddly producing all horrid odors, never pleasant. Peppers have to rot a year, for example) and there was nobody around all week long. Hmm. Was it snow or the bug?
Thats a far thought I reckon but heres the catchy observation...
One school I pass by, and nearby gang territory city park, were jam-packed to the hilt with parked SUVs blocking half the road all week in the afternoons because get this...
Sledding. Decent hills there. Diverse crowds of parents gathered atop the hill sipping trendy java variants, kids sliding, screaming, scrambling back up the icy hillside and probably generating a rash of boo-boos...
because they can't get to school. Whut th'? Over 80% of the tax I pay goes for schooling of other peoples legal or otherwise children. I'll stop at that but I was Mr. Sled as a kid. Plastic toboggan, Radio Flyer or whatever that popular steerable sled brand was, or F-1 truck hood on chain behind dirtbike or 4x4.
Transmission shops ought to be buried through summer, that was another. Trash pickup never happened this week and no voicemail notice like usual so lets everybody just leave that trash in the street to thaw. A couple more thoughts just came and went faster than I could track them. They'll come back by later. :lol:
I'd just love to clean my daily driver. But its too soon, too cold, and probably too late to rinse out the rockers but asap, I will. It had one salt (or whatever) hose out already this season but this was the worst slush pack probably in the car's life. Keeping a clean rig used to be my bag until our heavenly father took away the tree. And now that Johnny Cash song is in my head. But yeah, black car and half a year no wash job. Total dirtbag. Paint pretty much all reached the end of it's maintainable life during last year's four month plus broke sit. No more fooling anyone about condition with touch ups. It's twin is suffering the same fate. Theres just no place to fix them at.
Important stuff you need to know! :!: A little heavy on bleak tone, I digress.
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Quote from: "idrivejunk"Does that mean I'm old yet, BlueTip? :D
Our selectors look different, one must be older. Wonder whose? :wink:
Mine doesn't work, soooo :roll: Probably newer :lol:
Mine still works fine. Got it back in the Lacquer days from a friend that was the paint sales/rep, been 25 or 30 years.
Quote from: "Ohio Blue Tip"Quote from: "idrivejunk"Does that mean I'm old yet, BlueTip? :D
Our selectors look different, one must be older. Wonder whose? :wink:
Mine doesn't work, soooo :roll: Probably newer :lol:
Mine still works fine. Got it back in the Lacquer days from a friend that was the paint sales/rep, been 25 or 30 years.
Had to use the calculator, ran out of fingers and toes but I have had those at least 29 years. :shock:
Starthane was most popular for overalls on cool rides then, in Shreveport, Once in awhile I got to dust off Radiance dyes and mix candy lacquer. 8) Nothing quite glows like a tinted clear over bright metallics. But I became partial to pearls for the pretty effect without all the extra layers. I was a paint mixer among other multi-line jobber duties. During the Dallas and Sikkens era, I ordered myself one of every cool promotional item offered. Nothing as big but many cool knick knacks.
In the mid 70's I shot most everything in the PPG (Ditzler) line. Many not successfully. Lack on info was apparent back then. Now you find a video that shows you enough to be successful. :)
Correct me if I am wrong but catalyzed paints for cars were just emerging then and it was a turbulent and dangerous era to be a painter in.
When I came around paint in like 88, it was frenzied paint mixing for small shops and servicing every whim of the big users. Radiance dyes were on top of the Duracryl machine. Next to the Delstar. Starthane additive on top shelf there. Next to the Deltron. PPG vinyl intermix toners atop that one. Next to the Centari. Then Lucite and Imron machines. Then Autobase, Autocryl, and Autonova, then an industrial but you can put it on a car like SPI now... Sunbelt. Two or three sets of toners there. I have lots of paint stories. :)
1972 was the 1st catalyzed paint I used. Centari. The other brands had similar products. Sometime after that Imron came about. It had much more vocs in it. You could shot centauri but Imron in a regular cartridge paint mask would affect you. I only used Imron one time. I painted my top fuel car in 1978 with it. It bothered me enough that I shied away from it. About that time, all I shot was uncatalyzed products. When I purchased my fresh air unit in about 2006, is when I started using cat. products again.
Centari's PPG equivalent was Delstar. Acrylic enamel. It can use no hardener or yes hardener or high gloss overall job hardener. Or get cleared with acrylic enamel or urethane. Without hardener, after evaporation is complete, it dries via oxidation due to an additive called drier which will eat a can over time. Either brand.
Did my first paint job, 75 GP, in a warehouse with half mask using Deltron with Durethane clear. Durethane is a polyester urethane like Imron, flexible enough for old fabric aircraft they said. Buffing was impossible but I did a nice job and never regretted anything but the DU hardener made me sick and I was sensitized for life.
That was in 89 or so. Man I used to make 100 gallon batches in gallon cans on regular scales, of Imron for Kansas City Southern Railroad. What a circus. At least we had a two sided Red Devil! :twisted:
I used to build cable trailers. I bought the paint in 5 gallon pails. The kids stopped asking me to paint their bikes and stuff because it would be National School Bus yellow. :D
Quote from: "enjenjo"I used to build cable trailers. I bought the paint in 5 gallon pails. The kids stopped asking me to paint their bikes and stuff because it would be National School Bus yellow. :D
That was probably due to Ol Yeller coming out on the big screen about then. :D