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Motorhead Message Central => Rodder's Roundtable => Topic started by: enjenjo on April 02, 2012, 09:48:56 AM
Don't pass your hand in front of a cutting torch.
I hope you're not telling us that's your hand! :shock: :oops: That doesn't look like something that'll heal in a day or so.
lesson 1B
when burns like shown above happen...
cool with water as fast as you can.. get the heat out..
DO NOT WASH WITH SOAPY WATER... use DISTILLED or SPRING bottled water... wash other hand first...
bottled distilled water might have less bacteria in it.. so don't use one you have been drinking from if possible..
do not use alcohol or peroxide.. it will damage the edges of the GOOD SKIN and cause scars ...
stop what you are doing.. the blistered skin will eventually need to come off...
when it does.. let the open wound fill with the clear liquid that oozes up.. (Plasma) hold level to build a deep puddle..
let it skim over.. the surface of the puddle will dry.
if you watch it .. you will see an amazing thing.. you may see the skin grow little strands that meet in the middle..
once it is hard on the surface of the puddle.. and it starts to get hard all the way through.. keep applying neosporin or triple antibiotic ointment to keep the surface soft and flexible..
if you do this.. you will NOT have to bandage your hand..
yes i know its a pain.. but if you measure the scab.. the next day it will be smaller .. and smaller.. as the skin grows in from the edge... you may NOT have any visible scar when you get done...
why do i know this.. i was spraying brake cleaner onto a rocker arm shaft in my left hand.. some over spray caught fire and flashed back at me.. setting my hand on fire.. i had 20% second to third degree burns on my left hand.. front and back.. you cannot tell that i ever had a problem..
peroxide oxides and confuses the living skin around the outside.. it will not grow smoothly and correctly back..
alcohol also does a similar....
soap has various additives in it.. and surfactants.. this can rupture the exposed cells and also not just confuse the regrowth but severally effect the texture , thickness and color of the burned area after healing..
loose fitting vinyl food prep gloves can be had for cheep and some tape to seal them prior to showers.. or a coating of the antibiotic ointment just before showering... may keep the water from softening and getting under the scab..
Quote from: "phat rat"I hope you're not telling us that's your hand! :shock: :oops: That doesn't look like something that'll heal in a day or so.
Yes, it's my hand. No it won't heal in a day or so. I have been pretty much following Wayne's advise. Not the first burn I've had, hope it's the last. Looks much worse than it feels.
I had one of those when I was in the Army. Guy, passed a torch over my head. Hair is a little thin there now. Take care Frank.
Nice work Frank.
I remember when we heated and fixed the push bar at Bonneville. If we ever have to do something like that again, I will give you a little extra room, when you have the torch in your hand.
Take care of yourself.
John
ouch, haven't done one of those for a long time. don't want to either. At some point that will be painfull. take care!
I wonder what a Plasma Cutter would do? I try to do most of my cutting with a cut-off disc in my 4 1/2" side grinder. I still burn my hands trying to beat out the flames on my sleeves when the sparks from the grinder catches them on fire. Good thing you're a one finger typer. GPster
was it gloved?
I had a socket fly off the impact tody and I have a nice goose egg and a cut above my right eye. Found out my blood pressure is over the top. Wonder if it is caused from tornadoes and insurance adjusters :shock:
Quote from: "348tripower"I had a socket fly off the impact tody and I have a nice goose egg and a cut above my right eye. Found out my blood pressure is over the top. Wonder if it is caused from tornadoes and insurance adjusters :shock:
Stress will definitely drive your BP up, Before I started meds for high BP I tested 3 times a day. It didn't take long to see the direct correlation to stress and elevated BP.
Charlie
OUCH! Bad way to start the week. Sorry to see that.
Man I sure hate to see that. Go easy on it, give it time. Ouch. Thank you for the poor focus!
QuoteThank you for the poor focus
I have a better one, but I didn't post it.
ouch!
Ouch - not nice! But at least I don't feel like the Lone Ranger any more.
Wayne - thanks for the first aid tips. That's something I will keep for reference, but hopefully not need. I've always been quick to grab the peroxide - looks like I need to re-think that.
I hate to see / read that stuff. I've done it too.
My monday was a chitty one too, although I did not burn myself like that. Started the morning with a customer following me around as I worked on his work truck that was on the hoist, followed me in the shop, at my bench, at the tool box. geez, I hate that.
The fellow that should have been doing the work called in sick again and was home dealing with his ''personal problems'' that came back to him about 16 months ago. :shock:
Hello;
WOW! That looks bad! I got a steam burn taking a cap off a radiator once, went up the length of my lower right arm! I used Alovera juice (direct from the plant) and the darn thing healed very quickly and without scaring! As the old saying goes, "try it, you'll like it".
Bruce
OUCH!
Don't do that again...........
Oh Man-o-man, that looks horrific! I hate it when you have enough time to think 'jeez, this is going to hurt' before the pain sets in and that is clearly the situation with your hand.
JEEZ, Frank!!! I know[/i] that's an owie. I'll tell you what worked really well for me: ALOE VERA - a whole leaf from one of our plants. I burned my hand in an arc flash one time so bad that the middle finger looked like a hot dog that had been left on the fire too long. To avoid a long drawn out romp with OSHA and the safety department, I took care of it myself; got it into the water jug within a minute or so, and kept it iced down. I called Bobbye and told her what had happened and asked her to cut some of the Aloe leaves, wash them up, and put them in the fridge. When I got home, I took a leaf from the Aloe plant and split it open and wrapped it around my finger and tied it on, and changed that out several times and wore one to bed. The next morning, the pain was mostly gone, there was no swelling, and it showed signs of starting to heal already. It was completely healed in a week, and (you have seen my hands) no obvious scarring or other impairment. Hope you heal up quick and well.[/b]
Sure .... Where's Vance ( EMSjunkie ) when you REALLY need him :?:
That one looks kinda bad Frank .... No gloves :?: :idea:
Bob.... :wink:
owchie. Take care of that. Here locally today, a fella trying to cut a drum open, http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2012-04/1797/53081/1200759_Farm_Explosion.pdf, got the end off by golly... years ago in the air force, a ssgt in the welding shop was making a barbique for the commander, unfortunatley he never finished it, the top of the drum hit him in the head, and lifted his body up, slamming him into the header above the roll up door.
We have an aloe vera plant at home for just such emergencies. Works great .Hope the healing goes well.
Frank, Have you been working on lesson #2 yet? Please remember to keep your hand out of the way if you're using a hammer.........oops that was wrong wasn't it.
Yowch! I'm sure glad you got to the end of the week without lesson 2!
wait... #2... i have a fix for the HAMMER THUMB.. or HAMMER finger...
when a finger or thumb nail is SMASHED.. STOP what you are doing.. drop everything .. DO NOT swing hand.. take other hand.. place thumb of other hand down hard on the smashed finger or thumb nail.. squeeze TIGHT.. you want to prevent the blood from rushing under the nail.. yep its going to HURT like .........
think of it this way.. a few minutes of pain now.. or weeks of a tender finder ...
continuing .. hold hands over head.. still pinching the damaged nail to prevent blood from flowing under it.. holding your hands above the head will reduce blood pressure in your hands ..
hold it up for at least 10 minutes.. DO NOT SWING IT.. that will increase the blood pressure.. you probably want to take a 30 minute break .. without returning to the hammering.. until the tissue has had some slight chance to heal..
if you do this right.. you will prevent the blood from pooling under the fingernail and lifting it.. causing extreme pain until the nail pulls off..
this also prevents the need to drain the pool of blood from under the nail to relieve pressure.. yes... it will be sore for a day.. maybe two.. but it won't hurt like ....... for a week or two.. and you probably won't loose the nail..
this also works really great on kids fingernails when they get them pinched in the door of a car.. so you might want to share this with the spouse..
you have to practice the hold first.. spend a few minutes trying to cover your thumb nail with your other thumb.. and also a finger nail.. so you know which way to grab before you really need it and there is NO time to practice..
you have about 5 seconds to grip your smashed nail.. before it starts to fill.. hence the reason for DROP everything..
I learned this from my uncle when I was a kid. Y es, it hurts like the devil, but only for a short time.
I understand the instructions but have a question... :?
Instead of the normal hollering / screaming /turning the air "Blue" with funny words , are we to just follow the instructions while smiling & repeating " Gee..That Smarts....Gee ..That Smarts .... :shock:
That way no one will catch on to our procedure :?:
I just thought of some thing ..... :idea: Does this incident qualify Frank for a "senior" position in Team Smart :?: :?: Maybe placing him in the " HOTSEAT" at meetings ... :?:
Bob...... :wink:
I still think it's part of the procedure to turn the air blue...otherwise, who would've ever figured out it works?
I would have to add that in order not to make the air completely blue one must dance around in circles, clockwise for those of us on the northern hemisphere, counterclockwise for the aussies.It might also help to yell OW OW OW here or WO WO WO down under.
I find that I must put the injured hand in the opposite armpit and dance on one foot for at least 48 seconds to relieve pain. I discovered this method by accident when I was about 12 after my brother pulled our '55 Ford from the street up under the carport and opened the hood. I wondered if the crossover pipe (remember those Fords that had the crossover on top infront of the engine?) was hot.... It was... :shock:
Quote from: "wayne petty"wait... #2... i have a fix for the HAMMER THUMB.. or HAMMER finger...
when a finger or thumb nail is SMASHED.. STOP what you are doing.. drop everything .. DO NOT swing hand.. take other hand.. place thumb of other hand down hard on the smashed finger or thumb nail.. squeeze TIGHT.. you want to prevent the blood from rushing under the nail.. yep its going to HURT like .........
think of it this way.. a few minutes of pain now.. or weeks of a tender finder ...
continuing .. hold hands over head.. still pinching the damaged nail to prevent blood from flowing under it.. holding your hands above the head will reduce blood pressure in your hands ..
hold it up for at least 10 minutes.. DO NOT SWING IT.. that will increase the blood pressure.. you probably want to take a 30 minute break .. without returning to the hammering.. until the tissue has had some slight chance to heal..
if you do this right.. you will prevent the blood from pooling under the fingernail and lifting it.. causing extreme pain until the nail pulls off..
this also prevents the need to drain the pool of blood from under the nail to relieve pressure.. yes... it will be sore for a day.. maybe two.. but it won't hurt like ....... for a week or two.. and you probably won't loose the nail..
this also works really great on kids fingernails when they get them pinched in the door of a car.. so you might want to share this with the spouse..
you have to practice the hold first.. spend a few minutes trying to cover your thumb nail with your other thumb.. and also a finger nail.. so you know which way to grab before you really need it and there is NO time to practice..
you have about 5 seconds to grip your smashed nail.. before it starts to fill.. hence the reason for DROP everything..
I tried out lesson # 2 today. Thanks Wayne. I'll see how it works.
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I tried out lesson # 2 today. Thanks Wayne. I'll see how it works.
I bet you were hoping you didn't need it that soon. :twisted:
Hot pipe magnetism....
seem i can fix all kind of things... the guy running wind sprints in the back alley was jumping up and down with leg cramps.. i got him a single magnesium tablet.. cramps gone in a few minutes..
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I tried out lesson # 2 today. Thanks Wayne. I'll see how it works.
I bet you were hoping you didn't need it that soon. :twisted:
Tried 2 methods. Pinching the finger and the Indain rain dance. Seems to have worked. Light blue under the thumb nail. :lol:
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I tried out lesson # 2 today. Thanks Wayne. I'll see how it works.
I bet you were hoping you didn't need it that soon. :twisted:
Tried 2 methods. Pinching the finger and the Indain rain dance. Seems to have worked. Light blue under the thumb nail. :lol:
great... Prain dances work much better when hands are held way above head to reduce blood pressure in hands.. while pinching.. standing still or sitting down to reduce the heart racing from the pain also helps.
glad i was able to help..
it is a learned reaction...
i wonder what makes water repel from magnetic fields.. does that make is a paramagnetic or a diamagnetic material.
Here's something different!
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Drain-Your-Subungual-Hematoma-blood-pocke/