The Rodding Roundtable
Motorhead Message Central => Rodder's Roundtable => Topic started by: enjenjo on October 27, 2010, 07:31:31 PM
Spent the day today stripping the Jag. It has some neat parts in it. It has a cable drive wiper system like the Specialty power windows system, several little fuse blocks, nice small lowback bucket seats, a pair of flip up gas caps, a nice set of guages, a neat little cable shifter, a fiber optic light system, and a ton of brackets. I also pulled the front suspension, 4 bolts and it was out. A very complicated car to tear apart. I have also sold some parts on Craig's list.
What year Jag is this that has fiber optics and where are they used? I guess the Lucas mystique doesn't worry you?
Quote from: "enjenjo"A very complicated car to tear apart.
All except the 4 bolt FE, huh? :D You gotta home in mind for that?
Love those Jag gas caps. I'll bet there are a lot of little details on those cars that are neat and unusual.
Quote from: "Mac"What year Jag is this that has fiber optics and where are they used? I guess the Lucas mystique doesn't worry you?
Quote from: "enjenjo"A very complicated car to tear apart.
All except the 4 bolt FE, huh? :D You gotta home in mind for that?
Front and rear are going into a 48 Chevy. The fiber optics are for all the lighted bezels for switches and so forth. it's an 84
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Front and rear are going into a 48 Chevy. The fiber optics are for all the lighted bezels for switches and so forth. it's an 84[/quote]
Now I remember you mentioned the 48 in an earlier thread.
I had no idea fiber (or fibre to a Jag) optics were used in a car that long ago.
one thing.. and i think i mentioned it..
many mid 80s and newer jags use light control boxes at each corner...
they are relay boxes.. they involve the bulb failure warning light in the dash
opening them removing the circuit boards and resoldering the circuit boards...
there is usually a daughter board on stack pins that can be pulled off to resolder..
Quote from: "enjenjo"I also pulled the front suspension, 4 bolts and it was out. A very complicated car to tear apart.
Was the motor already out?
I've dragged home an '85 XJS but haven't been able to start disassembly yet. Mine still has a motor in it, and I suspect that complicates removing the IFS.
Quote from: "OldSub"Quote from: "enjenjo"I also pulled the front suspension, 4 bolts and it was out. A very complicated car to tear apart.
Was the motor already out?
I've dragged home an '85 XJS but haven't been able to start disassembly yet. Mine still has a motor in it, and I suspect that complicates removing the IFS.
Motor was out. only the front motor mounts, and the PS hoses would be added.
Quote from: "enjenjo"Motor was out. only the front motor mounts, and the PS hoses would be added.
Its removing the motor mounts without removing the motor that is worrying me.
I keep thinking I should offer the motor free on craigslist to anyone who will remove it neatly.
Quote from: "OldSub"Quote from: "enjenjo"Motor was out. only the front motor mounts, and the PS hoses would be added.
Its removing the motor mounts without removing the motor that is worrying me.
I keep thinking I should offer the motor free on craigslist to anyone who will remove it neatly.
There are 4 bolts on each side from the mount to the crossmember, They have captive nuts and can be reached from the top with a long extension. You will then have to hold the engine up with a jack, and take the crossmember out. Once the crossmember is out you can clamp a 2 by 4 to the frame to hold up the engine.
Quote from: "enjenjo"Once the crossmember is out you can clamp a 2 by 4 to the frame to hold up the engine.
I'll use that approach.
Thanks!
I looked at the front end again, they are not captive bolts, but they can be reached easily. I included a picture of the mounts.
Here is a picture of the guages
Are those gauges any good? I like the look but have hesitated because Lucas has such a poor reputation.
Quote from: "OldSub"Are those gauges any good? I like the look but have hesitated because Lucas has such a poor reputation.
I don't know. I have not identified the manufacturer, but for many years Jag used Smith guages.
I like the look. Adapting a tach from a V-12 to a V-8 might be a challenge. I imagine the other gauges are easily adaptable.
I figured out they are Veglia brand gauges
Quote from: "Mac"
I had no idea fiber (or fibre to a Jag) optics were used in a car that long ago.
The 1968 Corvette had fiber optics in the console to monitor all of the front and rear lights.
Tom
Quote from: "39deluxe"Quote from: "Mac"
I had no idea fiber (or fibre to a Jag) optics were used in a car that long ago.
The 1968 Corvette had fiber optics in the console to monitor all of the front and rear lights.
Tom
1968? Get out!
That's probably 20 years before I even heard the term.
Quote from: "39deluxe"Quote from: "Mac"
I had no idea fiber (or fibre to a Jag) optics were used in a car that long ago.
The 1968 Corvette had fiber optics in the console to monitor all of the front and rear lights.
Tom
That is correct......................
Yep, my 69 Vette had the fiber in the console for the lights.
I always thought it was cool idea.
Chevrolet was the first to introduce fiber optics in 1967. Called the Vigilite Monitoring System, it was made available mid-year on full size models, Chevelles, and Camaros as an option. Priced at $26.35 on 1968 Camaros, it was rarely ordered and as such NOS systems can sell for upwards of $1,000 today. Complete used systems command high prices as well, often approaching NOS prices. In fact, this option is so rare that records indicate just 117 Chevelles were equipped with the light monitoring system in 1967, and only 1,755 Camaros were so equipped in 1968. It was even less popular on the 1969 Camaro, with just 1,450 installations.
Re the Jag front end removal with engine in..
Common trick for these .
Support bars that sit astride the engine. These are supported on end blocks that sit in the channel where the front fenders are bolted,rather than across the top of the fender with risk of damage to the customers paint or denting.
Mounts unbolted,engine raised with jack, attach engine to bar,remove jack. Engine now suspended.
Spotted this when I got my last front end. my son works for a specialist Jag repairer , and I got my front end from under a customer discard S111 vehicle left at the shop.
I left my old S1 front end in it,s place.
Frank.