The Rodding Roundtable
Motorhead Message Central => Rodder's Roundtable => Topic started by: enjenjo on July 10, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
Barring Something unforseen, the RRT will be shutting down at the end of the month. There are several reasons, but the biggest one is lack of participation. The post count has been going down steadily for some time now, and at this point 5 posts is a big day. So, rather than let it fade out, we will just end it.
This has been on my mind for some time now. I have made friends that I will value for the rest of my life. I am doing it with a heavy heart.
I will still have the BBQ at Kzoo in sept, and I will be in contact with several of you in the next couple weeks to settle loose ends.
Feel free to contact me.
frank
WOW, and it not even April Fools Day. This is the 1st site that I check out, even before my email account. Ya have to do what ya need to do. I appreciate the time you have had it up and the effort that goes into it. Just at a loss for words.Thanks
RIP
bob :cry:
Ouch. :shock:
Well dad gum, don't know what to say.
This is the only car site I surf anymore.
I am also at a loss for words.
Gee whiz Pa ....Say it ain't soo..... :shock: This is also the first site I visit every day .....This is the only site where everybody is friends :!: :!:
Why heck.... This site even perfected the better mousetrap :!:
Participation always drops off during the summertime...... :?
Could we pleaze keep it goin' if we promise to be good :?: :?:
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEE :?:
Bob........ :wink:
Ok, I've been cogitating on this abit.
I get the feeling that this is not an economic decision.
If it was economics, I'm sure you could do a donation drive and get the money.
Guess I don't quite understand why the number of daily posts is a determiner of keeping the forum alive.
You all know I could and would host this or a similar forum if desired.
So that offer is on the table.
Just not sure how everyone would feel about me doing it.
I know some other members here also have the expertise to setup and run a forum like this, so maybe someone else might step up.
I also know if it got turned over to Ryan I probably wouldn't come and continue to post.
Guess we'll see how this goes.
ok, wtf did I miss?
fwiw, i haven't been posting cuz i ain't had anything to say, that, and while i still have my coupe, it's not a priority although i HAVE been collecting parts for it.
my interest HAVE changed a bit (rambler drag car) but i still chk in here..
I'm sorry to see it shutting down also, as this is the first site I check more than once a day also. I, too, have been away from my project for too many years, due to injuries, moving and setting up the new house and shop. I'd be all for Carnut running it if he wants to...
where does this put the group race car and money invested?
Sell off the parts or perhaps a member is interested in a buy out of investors?
Some guys have more than money invested, they have time & travel into the build
This indeed is a shock .... being from Oz we owe Frank so much , although not publicised he goes out of his way to be of assistance to aussies whether it be sourcing and on sending parts or driving a zillion miles to help out a couple of lost souls and of course giving us a place to call home in our time of need , something i'll never forget.
I have made many friends via here , the late Off Off comes to mind as does 58 Yeomans who checked out a car for me some time ago, which i appreciated greatly.
I'm hoping Carnut can keep this site alive as it's always been such a pleasant place to visit unlike many others.
If indeed it does close i'd like to thank the two Frank's who've made ths a great site which i do check daily .... true Hotrodders.
Thanks ..... Mike aka TJ's Dad.
I am not against someone else taking it over. Truth is we were contacted about a take over about 5 months ago, but it didn't work out. Mainly because they wanted to keep the current administrators, but there were other issues too.
Finances are not really a problem, we have it set up to run pretty economically. As you may have noticed, no fund drives for some time. As I would run into a member here and there, they would slip me a few bucks for the site, enough to keep it going.
I also realize that summer traffic is normally down, I have no problem with that. But while doing a search a few weeks ago, it struck me how many people are no longer posting, from just the last two years. So I did a survey of the last 4 years, and the trend is steadily down. Our traffic is down by a factor of 4 from what it was 3 years ago.
The board has been up now for nearly 11 years. Maybe it's just time for a change at the top. Someone with some new, or at least different ideas.
For those of you invested in the RRT racer, parts, or money, You are the loose ends I was referring too. You are the ones to decide what to do with it. If someone takes over the board, I have no problem continuing the build. If you want to liquidate, I am fine with that too.
After this much time, both Fatcat and I are out of ideas. Also as some of you know, I have had some personal issues in the last few years that have taken up a bunch of energy and time. Things are looking up on that front, I think I can see the light.
Quote from: "enjenjo"I think I can see the light.
Maybe they time is right. Do what is right for you.
Hopefully someone else can take over.
Sorry to hear this Frank
I will be sorry to see this go. I also check daily to see what is going on, and in my case, since I am so far away from the majority, this is the only way I have of communicating with all. I am sorry that I have not been doing my share, but for the last 6 months or so, my life has been pretty much in the dumps, and just haven't had the energy to add to anything that is going on with all of you.
Doug
"This is also the first site I visit every day .....This is the only site where everybody is friends"
Same goes for me. It's a classy forum with no B.S.; just good questions, & informative answers. The pending shut-down is understandable, but truly sad.
I'd like to echo Mike's (tj's Dad) words to you guys. I dont post much on here as I am just a little gunshy at posting crap on Forums at the present time - reasons found elsewhere, not here.
While a lot of stuff posted up here does not hold a lot of interest for me, there sure is a lot of good reading as well, so while I may not leave any footprints - I sure visit a lot.
Sure would be a shame to see it go, even tho'I think I understand where you are coming from Frank.
If she goes, I want to wish you all the best for your future, hopefully I will get to meet you some day. Please have a big think before pulling the plug M8.
I sensed something was going to happen. This is bad enough but not as bad as my imagination had made it. I've even had my wife check Face Book to see if the other (better?) half would let out a clue. I'm at a loss for anything more to say. GPster
Well there is something particularly unique about this forum.
It's always been a lot more automotive technical than social, yet at the same time I do think we all are about the same age and share similar views and styles on a hobby or lifestyle choice.
I've always enjoyed and felt comfortable with things here and frequently have seen value in what all was being posted.
The social aspect kinda just came about because a bunch of us have been here from the start at the original RRT and then here.
Guess you can say we all have just take for granted this place would be here.
I know one reason I have been here pretty much exclusively is the simplicity of the forum and minimal amount of computer flashy stuff in the forum. Also have enjoyed the lack of 'Drama' I have seen at other places.
Guess it's kinda like a gas station or speedshop hangout for old fogies in a way. Various folks dropping bye and participating in conversations. Sharing our love for a particular mechanical hobby/life style.
I guess it's disappointing to some that this place didn't 'takeoff' on popularity like some others and become an income generator, but just like a local hangout it has it's regulars that probably would have been put off if a newbie crowd did actually show up.
Heh, heh, I know I posted earlier that I would happy to provide an alternative site if needed, but that was a bit of braggadocio on my part because I was so taken back by the news.
My personal situation would make my creating another site somewhat shaky because of my own financial situation being 'grave' and my health declining. But because there really is no alternative to this place for me I jumped at the chance to keep the 'idea' alive.
Don't know if anyone is aware but I do keep another forum and nightly chat going at http://goldmonkey.org out of some sort of duty I have for some friends I have met on the net. It's a bit of a ladies sewing circle thing that I'm sure no one here would have any interest in. But awhile back I was feeling my own time was short I brought in a another techie type person to be a Co-Admin on the forum so that if something happened to me that forum would be able to continue on without me. I actually had created that forum on my a server I had here in my own house, but due to it getting hacked and getting the I.P. black listed, and my feelings on my own longevity and how much longer I might be around I felt it was a better idea to move the forum to a hosted service, so the host could fight the fight against hackers and so it could be continued to be supported by someone else if I was gone.
Guess I'm wondering if another Admin here might be a solution for those of us here who would hate to loose this place?
I know that enjenjo pretty much keeps the topics going on the forum, but if it's the management of the forum that is the problem, I'd have no problem helping out with that. Heh, heh, for at least as long as I am around.
I don't want to see the end. This has been a great place for knowledge and help. I agree with George about "likeminded". I will be sad to see it go. What will happen to the tech info?
I felt the end was near before the RRT race car project got off the ground(?) .. as many here know the fatcat and enjenjo were trying to stir up involvement on the RRT with the car project.
I got on board with the car project early with hopes things would pick up on the RRT site. When you have a small core group of folks doing the foot work , things can only move forward so far and so fast.
Plenty of solid information from folks here. I guess a few emails or phone calls would produce similar results as a forum would. ?
My own car projects currently sit from money situation. We plan on retirement in the area of 2013 - 2014. The economy has nearly killed that plan. So .... we hold back on all extra spending at this time to obtain that retirement goal. I have actually tried to sell a few projects with little(none) results
btw: my (?) after the word "ground" in my first sentence is there since a salt flat race car getting off the ground (air) is a bad thing
8)
On any board like this, one of the keys, is new people. We are not getting new people. The reason this is key, is that there are members leaving all the time. And many are not leaving out of boredom, but for good reasons. Their interests change, their financial situation changes, health problems. I have no problem with this. Several very prolific posters, with a lot of great info, were missing for a time, for one reason or another for years at a time. No problem with that on this end. But without new people the participating membership keeps declining.
I just looked, since midnight last night, 40 new members have signed up. Of that 40, 2 might be legitimate. This is actually high. For the most part, it's maybe one of a hundred. We have had to make joining so hard because of the scammers, that very few will go through the hoops to join. Of the last 1,000 people to join, 5 look to be legit, and only one of them has posted. We have to go back three months to find any with more than one or two posts.
This is part of what is killing the board. If it appears that we do not welcome new people, even though we do, new members don't stick around.
Another part of this is post count. Lately 10 posts is an average day. It's not a problem with me, but we need more than that to pique interest in a new member. If it looks like they can't get what they need here, they just move on. It's kind of self fulfilling, no posts, reduces interest, and you go somewhere else for stimulation. Or if you only have one question right now, and you have to wait three days before you can post it, you go somewhere else for the answer.
More later
WOW what can I say?
You go on holidays for a few days and things change while your out of the room.
If I post more will you keep it open? Please?
I have also noticed that you havent opened the chat room for a while, I miss it.
Well I guess you'll all have to come over the pond and join us over on ozrodders.com :D :D :wink:
Cheers
Andrew
Oh gee, enjenjo, guess that is a pretty good statement of your goals and philosopy for this forum.
Fraid that is not how I perceived folks here were looking at the forum.
I saw this as a place for current members benefit and enjoyment and occasionally a newbie who might want to join in.
Thought there was an atmosphere and social culture here of a certain type that really didn't lend itself well to outsiders, kinda on purpose. Not that anyone would be intentionally excluded from joining.
Just never considered the reason for existance for the forum was to promote increasing membership.
I know as a practical matter on my own forum, I turned off the automatic registration feature because it was what was used to gain access to my server and hack it for a paypal phishing site. Also the group I served actually wanted a form of closed site where they all had a vote on new members just to make sure newbies would be accepted by all concerned.
Nothing wrong with an open forum I guess, but I don't see why the existing forum should be closed because of lack of new membership.
heh, heh, if anything I would put up a poll for voting on whether to close the forum or not and see what you get.
At least this thread looks to help get the post count up a bit for awhile.
I'll have to admit that I've actually refrained from posting here because I didn't want to overwhelm folks here with my mindless drivel.
I also tend to not log in here unless I have something to post, I just read several times a day to check things out.
Anyhow if what really matters here is gaining new members and getting the post count up, I guess you might have reason to be discouraged.
I once had an open forum and an open guestbook on my Carnut site and I closed down both of those because they became overwhelmed with scammers and I didn't have time to mess with keeping all that straight.
If that is a problem here, I'd just turn off open registration and rely on member recommendations for newbies or at least require an email to get registration made.
Sorry to see this, but I can't say it wasn't unexpected, I noticed the lack of posts a while back too. Seems like many of us are busier than ever right now and the car stuff is taking a back seat for the time. Thanks to the Franks for rescueing the board in the first place and for all the work since then.
I don't want to increase membership to become another HAMB, that is not what we want. I don't want number just to have numbers. For a stable site, we need 150 to 200 active members, we don't have that right now. And it has nothing to do with the summer doldrums, we were in this shape last january.
Since we started this site, we worked to have a site that respected all, and was a place to get a straight answer. I think it has pretty much been like that. We have worked hard to keep it like that.
If you want a closed forum, no new members, we can do that. It would relieve a lot of the pressure on Fatcat to keep the spammers out. If you want a totally closed forum, no outside viewers, we can do that too. If you want new members by nomination, that can be done.
I am not on an ego trip, I don't want the biggest site on the web. I just want a place that friends can get together and discuss our common interests.
For several years those who left were replaced by new people, that is not happening any more. We stayed between 150 and 200 active users. I am not sure why, but that is no longer true. Probably the biggest reason, most people who are going to use the internet are already doing it.
There are several people who are post killers, particularly tech posts. I am one of them. If I answer a tech post, that is usually the end. So I don't get to learn new things as much as I like. There are others too. Just because we have an answer, it may not be the only answer, or even the best answer. I want to hear the other answers too. Quite often I wait to hear some of the other answers so I can learn too.
It will break my heart to shut this down, I have invested a lot of time in it. Not to mention money, which many of you helped with. All I need is an excuse to keep it going. I am not as sure about shutting it down as I was at Noon yesterday.
I have seen some good ideas here, and in PMs I have received, lets keep it up, I want to hear what you want.
more to come.
where are we currently on active members?
Heh, heh, actually I think the lack of activity (without being too political) is due to the economy.
My website is also down more than 50% in viewship in the last 2yrs. Went from 60k hits a day down to about 28k hits a day now. Really impacted my Google income.
I really think a lot of folks who used to surf the net at work are either out of work or not taking the same chances now at work.
I wouldn't like a forum closed to viewers, but do think you might ought to consider turning off the open registration routine and just make it an email request thing to join.
Quote from: "river1"where are we currently on active members?
Less than 100.
Quote from: "enjenjo"
"Since we started this site, we worked to have a site that respected all, and was a place to get a straight answer. I think it has pretty much been like that. We have worked hard to keep it like that."
That's the main reason I visit this site whenever I log on. A few times I have contributed a response when I had something relevant to the subject, but for the most part, Enjenjo, or Crosley or Wayne answered queries better than I could and I didn't want to chime in repeating what was already said. I came here last week asking a question about where to find a part I was looking for and Enjenjo came thru as usual.
Although I have never met face to face any of the regulars, they (you) are like old friends that you are comfortable with.
Maybe not huge in numbers but the lack of drama was a breath of
fresh air- I see enough hate and animosity in the world without reading it on the computer. Quality not Quantity
I certainly hope that the RRT can be saved in some manner. Tom...
Quote from: "Carnut"If that is a problem here, I'd just turn off open registration and rely on member recommendations for newbies or at least require an email to get registration made.
Since this software was installed in 2004 there has been a requirement for a user to activate their account by clicking a link in an email sent to their registration email address. The spammers have figured out how to automate that process and can activate spam accounts on any targeted forum through a computer automated script. That is how we have seen the issues of the last 7 months where I was blamed but a vocal minority for not protecting them from spam messages on the forums and in private messages. So at that point I turned off all forms of registration that allowed a user to become a member of this forum. For a new user to become a user here I have to personally activate their account. That presents a new issue as how do I determine if a new user is a valid user or another spammer. Some cases I can pick them out right away. But if someone uses a seemingly valid user name and I turn the account on and they start spamming I am to blame for that. If I delete accounts that appear to be spammers and they were real users then I have alienated a potential user and further reduced the talent pool of this site.
Having said all that if those of you that are here and actually use the forum want it open and do not care of there are any new blood here that gives the older respected technically oriented users a chance to teach all of us how to do something they did not know how to do already then we can just completely turn off user registration and leave things up. But when we get to the stage where there are nothing but people viewing the site and nothing being posted for weeks on end I am going to pull the plug and close the doors because at that point it is just not a viable situation.
Just to add some perspective to this issue how many of you reading this remember users such as Blownolds, 4 Inch Bore, Larry@Graffiti, moondisc, DrChop, kroozn, and KustomLincolnLady. None of those users have posted here in the last 3 years with several of them having been absent for nearly 6 years. I have met many of those on that list and consider some of them my friends. But without people to actually converse with on the forum all we would have is a bunch of page viewers and very little conversation.
I do not want to see this forum go away. I have spend fully 1/4 of my life making sure that anyone that wants to discuss cars has a place to do just that but for the last 6 months I have been seeing fewer and fewer people actually doing that on the RRT. I have also run out of ideas on how to get more people to actually talk about anything. Every one I talk to says I learn from reading others solutions for users problems but if there is no one here with a problem then there is little information being offered for those silent users to learn from.
I also see a number of users apologizing for posting off topic late model car posts. As far as I am concerned there is no such thing as off topic automotive posts. For many years I have used the following description to advertise this site, "This site is designed to provide a place for like minded people to find help on, or talk about cars." Nowhere in that description does it say only street rods. It would seem that a number of users consider the fact that there is the word rodding in the name of this site that we should only talk about pre-48 cars. Well that is not the case. I am only 40 years old to me any car built before 1970 is old. But I have owned only one car build before 1970. So cars built in the 70's and 80's are what I know.
Quote from: "enjenjo"Quote from: "river1"where are we currently on active members?
Less than 100.
There have been 52 registered users logged in today.
The most was 251 on Wed Nov 22, 2006
You might find a few new registrations today, I posted about your impending closure on Ozrodders, and many are finding out about RRT for the first time and want to join.
I hope some new blood will change your minds :wink:
Heh, heh, no offense Fat Cat, but I think the trying to be all things to all people gambit might be a tough nut to crack.
From what I've been seeing lately most all the active posters are generally hard core old car Hot Rodders in their 60's.
So that all things to all people deal would be a double edge sword type deal. Possibly broadening the discussions while at the same time losing those interested in just the Rodding type discussions.
I really don't think anyone posting actually thinks they can't post whatever they want here, it's just that folks are just trying to be considerate of the general interests and discussions that the forum has pretty much stayed with.
Kinda like the furor that NSRA is trying to get thru with some folks.
I know we aren't quite as rabid as the Model A or Model T type folks but we are pretty close in our desire for topical discussions.
Now that V12 GMC has been a great discussion thread for historical interest and don't think anyone has complained, but there might be some folks less than interested in it.
It's just life, either you keep you current clientel happy or you go an look for a different clientel I guess.
I know everyone claims to be open to younger folks and later model discussions, but in reality I think the it just becomes understood that folks are here for Rodder type discussion in the old car sense.
I've also seen several folks mention other forums they frequent, when someone asks a question on info that folks here can't answer there is always some other forum link posted that the questioner can go to.
So I actually think most folks here frequent other forums for specific reasons and come here for specific reasons, most generally Rodder type stuff from an experienced and layed back point of view.
heh, heh, looks like I'm really into helping the post count here today.
I actually have a lot of stuff I'd like to post here, but most of it would be viewed as shameless self promotion or trying to steal viewers from here.
Right now I have a couple pics from a local car show in 1960 that I think are so cool for bringing back memories from 'The Day' for us oldsters, but I haven't posted them because I didn't want to look like I was just showing off my site.
We all have our individual reasons for posting or not posting I guess.
Quote from: "Carnut"Heh, heh, no offense Fat Cat, but I think the trying to be all things to all people gambit might be a tough nut to crack.
From what I've been seeing lately most all the active posters are generally hard core old car Hot Rodders in their 60's.
So that all things to all people deal would be a double edge sword type deal. Possibly broadening the discussions while at the same time losing those interested in just the Rodding type discussions.
We all have our individual reasons for posting or not posting I guess.
But in so much as your comments I am offended. You have basically dismissed me(age 40) and my interests(60's, 70's and 80's cars) with your comments. Whether you like to admit it or not all the 60 -70 year old rodders will be dead or unable to drive by the time I am 60 and unless we replace them now the site will be dead any way. Because your view of the situation is your typical 60 something guy that has no interest in anything newer than when you graduated high school that tells me I should find someplace else to post where the viewers hold a similar opinion as I do.
I have said for nearly as long as this forum has been alive that unless the older people of this forum find some way to make friends with the younger crowd and find a common interest the car building hobby is also in a decline that it will not recover from. Snobbery of any kind is going to cause people to look elseware for people that will at least accept them and that I think is part of what has forced some the user base away from this site. How many users on this site spend at least a few weekends a year at a drag strip? Yet there are not too many discussions about setup and operation of a drag car. Even when we formed the group that is building a Drag/Salt car we can't drum up enough interest to warrant a viable conversation about building a drag car. In my opinion that is because there is a select number of users that consider that to be outside the scope of this site. There are several people that I consider friends that have found other sites to talk drag racing on because they were uncomfortable talking about it here. As I see it if we don't evolve with the times we will become extinct.
Another factor is that for every 10 questions asked thereis one question where someone will tell the original poster to go to another site to get the answer you need so they never come back because they find a like minded group that they share an interest with and that dilutes the user base as well.
Frank and Frank what can I say? I think I can understand better than many here of the frustrations that you feel. We have suffered similar problems over on our Aussie Forum (Ozrodders) in recent years with many regular members leaving or no longer posting, then followed by other members telling you how you should be running your forum, that is when they are not * and moaning about people behind their backs! Then you have those who * and moan that there are not enough posts about Hotrods and Kustoms and too much later stuff, yet those same guys with the knowledge rarely post what they preach about!
Not always very welcoming for new members without the wise old hands speaking honestly but with gentle guidance. Lets make no mistake if we don't welcome the newcomers, including the younger age group, our chosen hobby will slowly fade away. There is always a challenge there and when we opened up our board to Pre 72 we lost quite a few 'hard core' rodders in the process. There can only be one HAMB though. Always hard to get the balance right but IMO getting those young guys to build a Pre '48 Hotrod as their next car starts with welcoming them when their current car isn't what we would normally look at too much.
Us Aussies will always appreciate your help and temporary home when we lost our initial HRI Forum and you will always be welcome to come visit in the land of Oz in person or in cyberspace and we thank you for your continued input with us. I am probably one of those who has not posted here in a while myself and for that I apologize. Will get over and see you in the coming years and have a quiet few drinks. It's okay, I wont drink as much as Andrew and Scooter!
Hopefully we will be around for a while longer yet and hope to see many of our U.S. friends over on the Aussie Forum. If nothing else you still get to catch up with Enjenjo over there! Best of luck my friends.
humm, so if you all can't get the new folks in here Fat Cat you would just as soon shut the forum down for us old folks who are here?
Again Fat Cat you seem to have a vision for the forum that a lot of folks here may not share.
I really don't think folks who post external links to other forums for answers to questions really results in folks leaving here permanently for the other forums.
There are reasons that the folks who remain here want to remain here and going to another forum for an answer won't really draw them away.
I've been to many other car guy type forums and I have never found one that I have enjoyed so much as this one or felt as comfortable as I have at this one.
And again I am sure everyone who has remained here has remained because they also enjoy and feel comfortable here.
The newbie feeling unwelcomed is a standard feeling at all forums actually. It's just part of socialization that a group culture causes.
Everyone who's become aquainted or familiar with what's here will post about things in a way the newbies just have to learn to understand and accept to join the crowd. It's that way on every forum. It's also that way in most all social interaction groups.
I just don't understand the thinking about closing this forum down just because a only a few old foggies want to post here.
I've been watching this thread unravel since Enjejo put up the first post and it has been interesting.
I was here pretty much from day one of the original forum, I was here when Frank and Fatcat took it over and it looks like I'll be here when it takes it's final breath.
However, there's many here now who I don't know and many it seems not here whom I do know, both personally and in cyberspace. So why does it seem I'm not a regular poster?
Bloody good question and some of it comes down to Fat Cat's comments about model years and what's acceptable. I'm a big fan of anything automotive and I much prefer those sites that cover a wider range of my interests than those that have a narrow field of view.
Unfortunately, what stops me posting or contributing is that many of the questions are US vehicle specific, and my knowledge of that stuff is poor, even if my knowledge of other stuff is vast. Oh, and I'm usually late to the party so the questions I can answer have been well dealt with by the time I get here.
If I may make an observation, the banter and fun that was rife during this place's heyday, somehow seems to have departed with many of the old timers. The youngstsers see it as a place for old fogies and no fun at all, so they may look in but don't bother to return.
Maybe the solution is to search out the old members and ask what will bring them back. Heck there's a couple I know who I'd love to have return but sadly God had other ideas for them.
I don't think restricting access is the way to keep the place open, but maybe a merger might work. How about Ozrodders and RRT join forces and we turn the place into one big fun parlour?
Hmmm seems even if I'm not making any sense I've gotten the old RRT Rambler out of the shed and got it headed to the nearest tangent.
My major concern is how I break the news to Dolly, she will be decimated, this is afterall where she was born.
Frank & Frank...sorry also for not posting here as much as I probably should. I understand your reasoning for wanting to shut down the site but if it hadnt been for RRT I would never have met you guys and gals.
To think that back in 2004 me, Choco, Reddo and our wives were invited to a RRT BBQ at the Kentucky Nationals by you guys and all we had to do was fly for 15 hours from Australia to LA, drive another 4 1/2 hours to Las Vegas then jump on another jet for 6-7 hours to Orlando, drive for a few more days to Louisville then simply walk down the road behind the trader pavillion and, bugga me, there you were :shock: ....right where you said you'd be. 8)
How could we have ever done it without RRT? :shock:
You guys have done more for international car enthusiast relations than any rodding magazine.
Please reconsider, or at least pass it on, so we (Aussie Rodders) can meet up with US rodders and feel welcome when we get there...and vice versa.
We may live worlds apart, and you guys tock furney, but we are all rodders......... and please dont let Andrew and his mate put you off
:lol:
1. Ok, old fogie?.....guilty.
2. Newbie?....guilty. (Feb 2010)
3. Not posting?....guilty.(If I have something to add I do).
4. Want to see nothing but pre 70's posts?....innocent. (My son is an absolute 442 freak! His buddy is a camero nut.)
5. Have I felt not a part of RRT?.....innocent. (Every question I posted was answered, I have posted replys to questions & even a short story. What more from a forum could I expect?)
After analyzing my Pro/Con list above I believe if I start posting a bit more & slipping in a post occasionally for my Son or his buddy we can continue this friendship. We will try to do our part.
Is this a correct assumption? :shock:
Thanks be to all who maintain this great forum & if you decide in the end to close it we will be losing a good friend. :!:
Thanks, Bud
Crikey shut the place down! I would hate to see it happen,this is the only American site I visit. Like someone said earlier you can come here and not see any of the BS that you see on other other forums.
And the technical stuff is brilliant, what's gonna happen to that?
I've asked a few questions and the response has been excellent.The replies I got regarding a couple of different things on my imported US 34 coupe have been priceless.
I've even managed to meet a few of you on my visits to the states over the last few years.
It would be a real shame to see it closed down.
Frank I hope it works out for the best in whatever you choose to do.
Thanks for your efforts.
Ok, if a date certain has been established to shut the place down, I figured I needed to do something for those who want to try and continue a forum with the same theme and purpose as this one.
So, last night I surfed on over to Godaddy and oogled Danica for a bit and then purchased the domain name rrtforum.com to use just in case this place really shuts down.
I have no intention of competing with this forum and won't setup anything there until it is firm that this place is shutting down. If this place doesn't actually shutdown I won't use the name for anything.
If July 31 is definitely a date absolute for last day here, I'll most likely setup a forum under that new domain name about a week before the end just to get it sorted out.
On my current Forums link page I'll then replace the link to this place with a link to the rrtforum.com name.
Just in case any current members will be looking for a new landing place.
Again I have my doubts that this place is gonna shutdown, but if it does I would like to be prepared.
Heh, heh, I also know that it will be likely I'll be posting alone on that new site, but I'll give it a try if this place does actually go away.
This is very unsettling news for me. I understand and I appreciate the problem and I have noticed the decline in the number of post and the number of members responding. I do not respond as often because when I see that someone else has an answer that I agree with, I just let it go. The RRT is at the top of my favorites list. It is the first site I check in the morning and usually the last one at night. This site has been a big part of my life for many years. The people I have met and the information I have gained have made a great impact on my life.
This is just one example. Somebody posted years ago about how to do a tilt front end. I answered and Sumner answered. Sumner and I started to visit and we found out how much we had in common. I made a life long friend. In turn Sumner invited a group of us to his house and then to Bonneville. On the way home Hooley said, "I think I will build one of them race cars". I said, " Well Hooley, if you want to do it, I will help you." And that opened up a whole new world to me. I have had more experiences because of that race car than I could have every imagined. Most of the crew of that race car are members of this board. I can clearly say that if it were not for the RRT the # 974 would never have been built. That is just one way the RRT has changed my life. There are many others. I value the friends that I make and I have made many here.
I feel comfortable on the RRT. I often do not express myself clearly in the typed word but I know that the members here will figure out what I am trying to say. If they do not agree with me or take a statement the wrong way, they will tell me about it. I feel I am among friends.
This is not good news.
I have more to say but I just can not say it now.
John
I agree with John. there's alot of us that are like minded. This has been a great place to be. Frank sr. mentioned the "post closer". I have been one of those. Does that mean we answer completely so that no other info is needed or do people think it's hopeless and turn away? I don't have any answers at this point. All I know is that I have enjoyed the companionship from all the regulars.
Jon (admin guy) at Hotrodders.com has offered to cache the tech section here when the RRT is shut down
Ok, due to input here, and in messages I have received, we are no longer planning to shut it down at the end of the month. We'll keep it going, at least to the end of the year, and reevaluate then. In the meantime We will be shutting down new registrations, so Fatcat does not have to spend the time he does now dealing with it. I am thinking about another method of registering, but don't have all of it worked out.
I agonised about posting the announcement to begin with for several weeks, because this place means as much to me as it is now evident that it does to many of you. If I caused strife in your life, I apologize.
If you have any ideas on registration, send me a PM, and we'll see if it will work for us. If you have any buddies, who might like this place, let us know, we'll figure a way to ge them in. As we have done on the Aussie board, vouching a mate in will still get them in.
For the last year or so, we have been setting on new software for the board, some changes, but for the most part, same as we have, only better. We are sill waiting on final updates, that's the reason that it has not been done yet. If it comes together we will install it.
Frank, there is a guy from ozrodders trying to register, his user name is Truck, I'll vouch for him, OK :wink:
Quote from: "32coupe"Frank, there is a guy from ozrodders trying to register, his user name is Truck, I'll vouch for him, OK :wink:
ok. handled.
Crikey ! I visit a fair bit but don't say much. I will from now on. This site was our saviour in the bad old days and I am very thankful. Dave
Is it possible to require posts and PMs by newbies
to be approved before they appear anywhere?
That is how we have it on our Yahoo boards.
Anyone can join, but their posts require approval,
until we figure they are legit or not.
If they want to lurk, no problem.
99.9% of the time, you know after their first post,
if they are a Spam Artist or a decent person.
After their first post, they either get booted,
or switched to un-moderated status and can post at will.
Might not be possible with the software, but worth considering.
I will ask another board owner for suggestions.
Wow--all I can say. Being somewhat of a lurker here and other places, I am glad to see it is still going to be around. I have found that answers to posts here are answered a lot quicker here than other sites. Usually by the time I log in, most of the posts have been answered so I just usually read the answers and move on. Maybe I will post some of the other problems I have here and hope for some answers that I don't get at other sites. I really have appreciated all the help gotten here and enjoyed meeting some of the members and hope it continues to live on. Thanks all--anything I cna do to help--just say so.
Whew! now I don't have to break out a new forum to setup.
I can go back to lurking a bit.
Does the current software have provisions for a capcha or have the spam bot scripts got that figured out too?
Thank you Franks for keeping going a while longer at least! I'm also guilty of not posting a lot, but like someone else said it's at the top of my daily list.
Quote from: "Crosley"Does the current software have provisions for a capcha or have the spam bot scripts got that figured out too?
a few places i post makes you answer a simple question for the post to show. simple as in 3+1= or who was the first us president
later jim
Should I just say Hi whenever I visit?
Thanks for the "vouch" 32, i never knew this place existed so now will have a lot of catch up reading to do. :D Just for th einfo of those thast may be interested im in Brisbane Aust and am building my first rod, a '28 A model roadster.
It is hard to express myself without a bunch of random thoughts. Please indulge me.
First of all: Many thanks to both Franks for all they have done in keeping this site alive for as long as they have. ....Enjenjo, thank you for the knowledge you have shared over the years, and Fat Cat, thank you for your dedication in keeping the RRT working smoothly. ....I'm sure you've had a lot of frustration over the years because of this site.
Some of us have been around since the days of the CyberCruzin RRT and know that this version of the RRT has never had the same "energy" as the original. ....Most likely we've all been on good behavior to avoid a "meltdown" here. ....Nevertheless, this is HOME to many of us, and we feel that eviction is looming!
Back then, there were a lot of posts of a personal nature, and we learned of the highs & lows in other RRTers' lives. ....Many friendships were formed in those early years that still exisit today. ....Yes, there were a lot of technical questions asked & answered, but we learned a lot from discussions about other topics, as well. ....That, especially, seems to be what is, and has been, missing here.
I learn from hearing other people's views, whether I agree with them or not. ....I find it quite ironic hearing that there is not enough participation, yet one of the most active (53 responses) threads in recent months was shutdown without having run its course. ....The topic was discussed civilly from several viewpoints without personal insults, confrontations, or foul language, and it took place in the Throne Room, where non-auto-related topics could appear. ....The topic was about Arizona's contoversial law.
I, for one, always enjoyed Carps' input from an auto manufacturer's viewpoint. ....Yet, others were offended because the topic was about "foreign" late-model cars, and complained that it was not rod related. ....There were many disparaging remarks made about today's "ricers," yet many of them can out-perform our old technology. ....You're never going to please everyone, but it is the reader's choice to skip that which he does not want to read.
I was once told, "You're not learning anything while you're talking!" ....I read what others post, but I seldom respond unless it will be beneficial to my learning or to theirs. ....I won't respond to a question unless I'm sure my info is accurate. ....I come here first whenever I turn my computer on. ....I know I won't have to wade through 3 pages of "me,too!" posts to learn what there is to learn from one thread.
For technical info, age is not a criteria, but I believe age does factor into membership/participation. ....There is a certain comfort to be had "hanging out" with similarly-aged people. ....While few of us would shun a young person, would they really want to hang out here? ....There is so much knowledge to be gained from participating here, but how can we encourage it? ....One can only offer help/advice based on experience or knowledge - unsolicited help can not be forced on anyone.
We have lost several RRT'ers to death. ....Others who are M.I.A. have different reasons. ....As projects get completed, there are less questions to be asked. ....Other forums have taken some RRT'ers because of geography, specialized interests, or peer acceptance.
I did not get involved with the RRT racer because I could never understand the concept of how the construction and use of the car was going to be spread around the country, operated by different people, with different powertrains, at different venues, for different forms of racing at different times. ....Not wanting to pizz on anyone's cornflakes, I kept my mouth and my wallet shut.
I have noticed that there have not been any fund drives in the past few years. ....I would contribute regularly, but it seemed that after I made a contribution, someone would put a desirable item up as a fund-raising auction. ....Consequently, I stopped making donations in anticipation of an upcoming auction. ....If money is an issue, please let us know.
I would like to thank everyone who has shared their knowledge and experience here. ....Many posters have proven their credibility over the years, and their info is to be trusted 100%. ....I have learned so much here!
When my Dad died five years ago, an RRTer heard about it indirectly, and surprised me by showing up at the viewing to offer his condolences. (That really touched me, Ed!)
I cried like a baby for 3 days when Casa-J died a few years back. ....I met him through the RRT, and he really touched my heart.
Some of you guys are more like family than friends, even though we may have never met face-to-face! ....Some of my relatives are a PITA to me, but I'm sure I am the same to some of them. ....We may disagree, but there's never a grudge or ill feelings toward them. ....I feel the same way here!
I guess it really doesn't matter if a shutdown happens at the end of July or at the end of the year. ....Either way, it will be a sad day in my life!
I still drop in and check to see whats going on, and somenights spend hours just reading old threds, I have found a few older threds that i would of loved to reply to. but wasn't sure how it would go down if i bumpt an old thred from say two years ago back to the top, there are lots of great people on this site, and i enjoy reading 99.9% of the threds that are on here.
Glad to here the site will be here for a bit longer, I will try to visit and post on the site a bit more regular than i have in the past.
this site has a wealth of knowledge for me, hope it sticks around for a long while yet.
cheers barnsey
Gee, Bruce mentioned this thread being in The Throne Room. I was thinking if this thread had been solely in the The Throne Room I would never have seen it. I don't do anything here except the open forum. It's just my choice and preference.
I just see my consternation if this place had shutdown I would have never known what happened or been prepared for it.
Also I noticed KB426 mention the thread killer phenomenon.
I was thinking I experience the dead on arrival threads when I start a thread here. Frequently my threads go with few views and no comments.
I generally take from that there is little interest in what I post. It's kinda part of the socialization of the group, take the hint there is no interest and don't post anymore items few folks are interested in.
I know was actually late joining this forum after Cybercrusin shutdown because I felt I was considered a competitor and wouldn't be welcome to be posting offsite links.
I joined up finally because I just couldn't bear being away from the group.
Figured I would get told if I was overstepping my bounds here.
Anyhow, even if I don't have much to contribute that is appreciated I still get a lot from reading here, kinda why I generally don't login but just read the forum as a guest.
I suspicion there are a lot more folks who like to read and digest whatever is posted without logging in and posting.
My only gripe is if I don't log in I have to endure the atrocious background color here.
Quote from: "river1"Quote from: "Crosley"Does the current software have provisions for a capcha or have the spam bot scripts got that figured out too?
a few places i post makes you answer a simple question for the post to show. simple as in 3+1= or who was the first us president
later jim
So... with questions like that you do not post often at those web forums, although i guess you find the answers on the net. :lol:
I too am as guilty as the next for lack of posts. I do check in at least twice daily to keep abreast of the happenings. The information here is invaluable and one of the best tools in problem solving available anywhere. You can develop a strong bond with the other members without ever meeting the majority of them.
Guess it is time to quit lurking and contribute to site. I'd hate to see it disappear. Once I figure out how to post pics, I'll show you folks what is going on in my shop!
Thanks to enjenjo and fat cat for their hard work. We owe it to them to help make this work.
Rick
Thanks for not shutting down, at least for now. I am guilty of not posting much, but look at the board every day and would miss it very much. I have met many friends through this board that I would not have with out it.
Let me know if I can help in any way.
Ken
I am relieved but I can't make any wordy promises. This place has given me two very good friends and their families. GPster
Awwwwww maaaaann, that really sucks! I don't know how many people I've told "check out rodding roundtable - they're ALWAYS got answers to problems I've had!" To me this was / is the best site because it's SO easy to use and there's lots to learn here. Really sorry to hear it's going away. Larry :(
Okay, so after posting above I read a few more posts to find out that Franks not shutting down after all, at least for the time being! Glad to hear that! I'll try to be a better member!! :D
Quote from: "WZ JUNK"
This is just one example. Somebody posted years ago about how to do a tilt front end. I answered and Sumner answered. Sumner and I started to visit and we found out how much we had in common. I made a life long friend. In turn Sumner invited a group of us to his house and then to Bonneville. On the way home Hooley said, "I think I will build one of them race cars". I said, " Well Hooley, if you want to do it, I will help you." And that opened up a whole new world to me. I have had more experiences because of that race car than I could have every imagined. Most of the crew of that race car are members of this board. I can clearly say that if it were not for the RRT the # 974 would never have been built. That is just one way the RRT has changed my life. There are many others. I value the friends that I make and I have made many here.
John
I had always dreamed of some day going to Bonneville. Through this forum I learned of the # 974. I contacted Hooley through the forum. He invited me out to the salt flats and their pit. I have been there the last 2 years. I watched Hooley do his dance after breaking his old record. I visited in Sumners shop and home. I rode in Charlie's beautiful roadster on the salt. I got to wrench on a record holder. The other guys in the 974 crew are all special too. Of all the automotive memories I have those two visits are the most memorable, not only because of the place but because of the guys I have met and now consider friends. I owe those trips and friends to this forum. Thanks guys!
Back in my early years on this site, Carl coached me through a complete paint job. I couldn't have done it without him. That paint job won a PPG Best Use of Color award. I owe that to this forum.
I am no longer a regular poster here. I do check in from time to time. The RRT is still on the top of my "favorite" list. I have fallen away not because of the site, but because of my lifestyle. I still love the cars but am much less motivated to get out and work on them. I spend to many hours at work, and not enough with my passion. I'm tired and dreaming of retirement which is years away. When I finally retire I hope to return with a vengeance.
i check in here every evening, and i do learn something new at least once a day, and although i read every post, some times i have to ponder my wording, and by the time i figuire out how to say what i have to say, someone else has said it.... thankyou Frank and fat cat for all that you do
Hey Frank
I just thought I would post and say how glad I am to hear that the site is getting a stay of execution.
I am clearly as guilty of anyone of not posting. No real reason, just busy.
But I do lurk whenever I can.
I shall make an effort to frequent the site more often, because it is too cool to loose.
I too am an IT geek, and remember well your support when HRI went turtle. Any assistance you need, just yell.......although if it dived to 5 posts a day, I guess more helpers isn't the problem :roll:
EDIT:
:oops: :oops: :oops: I just checked my stats, and found I haven't posted in almost two years and had an unopened pm from 2007 :oops: :oops: :oops:
Thank you Frank for giving us another chance.
I don't post often.
Heck I live on the other side of T Town and only bump into you a few time a year.
( I will be at the hony bear this friday)
I don't think it's just this board that is slowing down,I see it on other boards too.
But Thank for hanging with us.
Russ
When I started this post, I was going by numbers only. I did not realise how many of you visit without logging in, so you don't show up in the stats. PMs from many of you made me aware of it. With the post count down, and the visits down, all I could see was in was no longer relevant. All I really needed was some feedback.
The mention of the Huggy Bear made me think about this. It's less than a mile from the house, and has been going on for several years, but two weeks ago was the first time I had attended. Lots of reasons, but none of them were really valid. Mostly, I was just to lazy to make the effort. When I attended two weeks ago, it was the first time the Marlin was out of storage since last October. I've had it at three cruises or shows in the last two weeks. I enjoyed all of them. Mostly the drive to, and from the cruise or show.
8) gee i'm glad your not shutting it down i also drifted from everyday to one visit a month and it was by chance that i found out you were going to shut down as on ozrodders i don't normally check the off topic section but today i did and i promise to drop in every day from now on 8) :wink:
So what can we do to inject some life into this forum? It's been done before but some of us old farts can tell what we remember about the 50's and 60's. How about some shop and project pictures? How about some local car show pix?
Frank, when do you guys think you will have the Crosley ready to go?
I am shooting for next Spring on the Fiat--MATCH RACE! I'll meet you half way somewhere. So far all I have is the drive line and body so I am pretty much starting from scratch. It will be a legal altered for " nostalgia racing". :idea: If there is any interest I will take a bunch of pictures and try to do a build thread on it.
Digger
I just read this post. I too would miss this site a lot. The information and answers to questions is worth a million bucks to me. Not to mention the friends I have made.
Don
Boy am I glad this thread changed direction. It is my first look daily also. As far as not being logged on, I don't unless I am going to post because I have to log in each time. That is ok with me, but you don't know I'm here.
I respect the others on this forum and greatly value the info available here. Yes I do look at some of the more active sites, but I do not value them as much as RRT. Please hang in there. Joe
QuoteIf there is any interest I will take a bunch of pictures and try to do a build thread on it.
Sure, post them, where else will I steal ideas for the Crosley. :roll:
Was just alerted to this thread by a good friend and had to jump in and offer some support. This is one of the few sites that a question is answered by a semi-lucid response instead of a bunch of nonsense about bias-ply tires and bomber seats. Now I do think that bomber seats have a place (B-17s etc.) but I want more under my bum on a long drive than a sheet of aluminum and a float cushion off a boat.
One thing I have noticed is that if a person has two or more computers and logs in on one the other isn't logged in unless you do so intentionally so you're getting visits from me at least that aren't showing up in your stats.
At any rate, I'll start logging in on both computers and do my part with the numbers. Your effort is appreciated and would really me missed by a bunch of folks. Thanks - MH
Wow, I don't know what to say. I haven't been online since my eye surgery so this is a real shocker. I can't see well enough to read all the posts without zooming in a lot. I'm still reading them but I did read Frank's original post and a few others on the first page.
I hope something can be worked out that let's us all to continue on. I'm a bit of a loner and without you guys life will be different. I've got a lot of good friendships from this group....friends I've met and some I haven't met yet.
Missing you guys is one of the worst things I've had to deal with after my surgery. I was excited to try to check in and then I ran across this thread. Bummer.
I want to try to read more of the posts in this thread and let it soak in a bit before I say much more.
P.S. I drafted this post up in Word and as I was posting it I noticed some posts on the last page that said the board might be staying around. Like I said, I've got to read more...
I've been out of commission the last few days(how the heck does a 63 yr old guy get strep in the middle of July) & was shocked to log on today & see this topic. In the few years I've been on here I've learned a lot & got some very good advice.I also view a few other boards & this is the most civil place to ask any auto related question. If I have something constructive to add to a topic I'll chime in,if not I conceal my ignorance w/silence. As for the race car, I belong to the "been there/done that group" ,got that out of my system in the 70's. I certainly hope a way can be found to keep this board alive past the end of 2010. David Midgett
the excitement is all up now and folks are posting. i suspect it will taper off to nothing in 90 - 120 days.
the ebb and flow of the site has dropped low here, not sure the problem as fatcat - enjenjo have said.
there are members of this forum that are prolific posters on different forums, but nothing here. Seems odd. I am not pointing fingers, simple thinking out loud.
Many folks read the forum , yet post nothing, do not log in, do not read the off-topic forum (throne room)
Would different names of the forum sections help change the perspective?
Here is is in raw numbers for the last 2 years.
those stats follow the same trend almost exactly as the hits and google clicks on my website.
I'm pretty darn sure it's more a reflection of the economy and who can and does surf the net for personal interest stuff.
Pretty sure 2yrs ago most folks were surfing at work, but with the downturn it's kind of shut off that group completely.
On the possiblity of changing things, anything outside of the open forum, I have no interest in. I don't do the Throne room because it's not open.
Also noticed that a lot of folks seemed to get to the point of just posting tech questions and there were no 'off topic' posts. Just think the idea of no 'off topic' posts in the open forum just got socialized into being understood as a rule.
Quote from: "Crosley"
there are members of this forum that are prolific posters on different forums, but nothing here. Seems odd. I am not pointing fingers, simple thinking out loud.
Would different names of the forum sections help change the perspective?
Been a while since I posted here, and I kinda fit in the above niche, to which, as I've been 'refreshing myself' with the forum in the last week, as an observation, I was thinking similar, in that sometimes less is more, and do 'we' really need the number of areas that are currently maintained?
I appreciate that they all have their merits as such, however, since you have 'stats' as such that illustrate numbers/usage etc, how varied are their usage rates?
Obviously I'm not a 'local' as such, but just a 'fresh' observation that's all.
Cheers,
Drewfus
I haven't been around much......got the itch to finally buy a much needed hoist and didn't think twice about logging on and asking for some opinions.I don't spend a great deal of time on the internet......this is the only site I try to look at on a regular basis.....I certainly hope it will exist long into the future.
the raw data obviously brings more questions to the table as to who , what , why?
in the visits - hits numbers , are the bots included in raw data?
as a chat item:
I have a twitter account. One of the few(2) ways my son will communicate with me.
I noticed something months ago about " key words" on twitter. Many of these folks use software scripts that gather 'key words" and then follow that account on twitter automatically.
So sometimes for S&G's I will type in various words on twitter posts to see what it generates for new followers on my account.
:lol:
Not as much participation here as I used to have either I'm afraid. Currently 55hrs/wk work, some work travel, and personal issues as well. None of which means anything to the mission of this board, of course.
Still, there are about 1,000 car related things I'd like to do when things settle down, and this is the first place that always comes to mind where they can be shared. It's also the first place and usually the only place I go with automotive questions.
That doesn't mean I can promise daily participation at this point, but this is my automotive home on the internet and I'll sure be disappointed if it's gone when I come home.
Frank, thanks for choosing to keep the doors open a little longer. Maybe we can ressurrect the site. I have been guilty of being more of a lurker than a particpant for sometime. I'm going to try to change that. I have met two of my best friends here, Granddadeo, and the late Casa J. When I checked in and saw your plans to pull the plug, it was like coming home to find your home burned to the ground.
Count me in when it comes to appreciating what you and Frank Jr. have done to keep this site going.
I have to confess, I too, rarely log in when I visit the site. Generally, I only log in when I've got something to say. You may not see me, but I am here quite often.
Quote from: "Crosley"there are members of this forum that are prolific posters on different forums, but nothing here. Seems odd. I am not pointing fingers, simple thinking out loud.
Guilty as charged your worship!
I am the most prolific poster on the Ozrodders site, I used to hold that title here, so I guess the question is why did it change?
Whilst I have made some great freinds here, I'm often unable to add my 2 cents because I don't know tha answer, to localised questions.
Of course I've never been backwards in sharing an opinion or answer if I did have one.
On the oz rdders site, I do have an opinion or comment that's valid for pretty much every post, because it's local to me.
Higher involvement in local discussion shouldn't preclude me from here, and I don't believe it ever has. That's more down to having nothing relevant to say.
One reason I started the model car thread is because on that topic I can have something to say, regardless if it's here or Ozrodders.
If it'll help keep this place alive, then I'm happy to continue contributing to it.
Hell, I could even start another thread on pinstriping and another on old photos, although mst of my really old photoes are of Australia, my US pics start in the mid eighties.
So, once again I'm rambling, but I figure people come people go, here as they do everywhere.
Quote from: "tony"Would different names of the forum sections help change the perspective?
Not sure, but I'm inclined to agree that maybe there's too many forums within the forum as I still haven't caught up on any threads outside the Roundtable list.
Strange thing is, on the only other site I visit, the HAMB, I don't read the main board just the model car builders forum and the Old Farts Forum, because most of my friends are there and it's a fun place to talk rodding.
I'll have to dig out some of my models and take a few pictures. I haven't built one lately, but I still buy kits.
Frank & Frank, I am so glad you will be around . Wzjunk [John] couldn't have written it better for me. I have met friends from around the world through this site. We need you.
Well back to the garage to get 974 ready for Bonneville. 20 some days left.
If you are at Bonneville be sure and come by our pit . Be glad to have you.
a small fact my middle name is Frank also.
Hooley
Ditto on keeping RRT going by someone else if necessary.
We all appreciate all the work that goes into keeping this sight up and running. I couldn't do it.
I check in several times a week to read new posts and search for answers on problems I might have with my 40 project.
I was a member when I lost my wife a few years ago and this sight definitely helped me through the pain.
This is kind of like an old friend on life support and you know they will be gone soon and you won't be able to ask them any more questions.
Thanks RRT.
Joe
Glad to hear that the board will remain up, at least for the time being.
WOW! And here I thought it was a pitch for a Doors song. Glad you've reconsidered. I'm reminded of the quote about expecting different results from the same input being just nut's. What is going to be different around here that will attract and keep new members. I believe tech is limiting by nature and you need a social climate for on going banter to increase post count, the one thing you identified as needed to increase membership. I think the throne room was intended for that purpose but I personally seldom see it cause I fly by and with post count down it's becoming a faster on and off.
I don't know what to suggest as an attraction but from reading through the posts I'd say that the old guys need to attract the new younger members, somehow. Might I suggest a old story heading of "When I was there" or something like that so a younger crowd might be inclined to read your short story. I wouldn't have to be long. I'm just thinking out loud here but no doubt something has to change for better results, or else..............My thought's Frank
Let me clear up something. I am not intending to shut it down at the end of the year. If we can fix our problems, I am ready to go on forever. If I am the problem, I am willing to step aside. If we need changes, let me know.
Well if for nothing else........You definitly got everyones attention!!!!
Mike
Quote from: "enjenjo"If I am the problem, I am willing to step aside.
Talk to my daughter, she says I am the problem, so it's not you.
Quote from: "Enjenjo"If we need changes, let me know.
She says I need to grow up and act my age.
Quote from: "enjenjo"
If I am the problem, ...
If that was the case, someone would have mentioned it.
I too am among the group who does not post often. Although I do come here every day and read the posts, sometimes logging in to read the throne room. My focus has moved from the Street Rod and more centered on the newer Mustang GT. Yes, I have modified the car since buying it, after all I am a HOT RODDER. The car is just plain fun to drive, gets out of it's own way and handles like it is on rails. Still, this sight is value-added due to the ideas, opinions and fellowship. It seems no matter what we drive or build this board has become a sounding ground for like minded men and women. The world would seem a very empty place without it. Oh, I did start the old Dodge yesterday, and started to put the interior back together. Soon,maybe soon!
*! I'm going to miss all of the answers and knowledge I learn here. It's been great . Thanks Frank.
Quote from: "mopar2dr"My focus has moved from the Street Rod and more centered on the newer Mustang GT. Yes, I have modified the car since buying it, after all I am a HOT RODDER. The car is just plain fun to drive, gets out of it's own way and handles like it is on rails.
so how about put what you did to it in another thread. i know i'd like to hear about it.
later jim
THANKS for sticking around,guys! I check this site every day,and would sure miss it,and I've met a bunch of great people.I don't post much simply because I'm not as knowledgable as others,but I sure have learned a lot from this site.Thanks,again and I'll see you at KaZoo.
Fuzzy
Thanks Frank, this is the only american site i visit.. as this is my first post here ( joined a few months back, have lurked since then, just soaking in the atmosphere.. & there's lots of it! ) i thought it fitting to thank the moderator. as a "newbie" to both the forum & rodding ( i joined ozrodders 2 & 1/2 years ago, that's the only other site i belong to ) i can say that it is a little daunting to know where to post, not knowing a great deal of the technical side. on ozrodders we have a "off topic" pub section, which makes it easier for bantering conversation.. i just havent navigated this site enough yet to know what's what.( it took me months on ozrodders to know the various sections & what fits where.. but when i worked it out i pumped in 2000 posts in two years).
frank i enjoyed reading the capers of scooter & andrew on their american road trip, & the help you & others gave freely to them, & the help you give others all the time ( it may not reach back here all the time, but many mentions on ozrodders of the helping hands in america for various different things ).
being new to rodding & customising, i dont believe there is anything that i could add to most discussions apart from encouragement of a great job done.. so i probably will mostly be a lurker here, but i do like reading the articles! keep it up gents & ladies thanks from me here in australia.
Rog the lurker, yeah, sure!
Bet that idea doesn't last more than a few days. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
regarding a 'problem'
I am not sure problem is the proper word for the situation here on the RRT.
As an example : some folks have responded that they visit the RRT site 'every day' yet it took a few days to 1 week for them to respond in this thread. :?
Some folks have gone a different direction in their lives. Several different forums here, throne room is open for all subjects cept the CORN word with a P in front (wink - wink) .... or politics
All forms of car stuff is welcomed here... 1880 to 2011 , gasoline to diesel to propane to electric.
I posted a thread with my electric opener for my home sliding gate. I received plenty of useful suggestions for testing and parts locating. The gate opener works now and I have a few extra parts now too
Just thinking out loud
Quote from: "Carps"Rog the lurker, yeah, sure!
Bet that idea doesn't last more than a few days. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:wink: hi pete, will do my best to add a few posts... once i work out where they go :lol: :lol:
p.s. how is the "t" word recieved here? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "Crosley"All forms of car stuff is welcomed here... 1880 to 2011 , gasoline to diesel to propane to electric.
Just thinking out loud
dam i just got a 1879 rocket powered car. i guess you don't want me here :lol: :lol:
politics have been allowed but if/when the debate has been exhausted the thread gets closed, as it should. most times we politely agree to disagree :wink:
later jim
when I get on the computer and go to the internet this is the site that it goes to. I am logged on automatically. I have not posted on this thread because when I first read it I didnt want to believe it. I am far from computer savvy ,as you may note I have never posted a picture here as I do not know how.This is the first computer site I ever joined. The friendly banter ,interesting projects,helpful advice,and encouragement from others is what makes this site unique.I sometimes will not post an answer to a tech question because I feel someone has already handled it well.I will talk to my daughter about uploading some pictures of stuff I am working on to help with getting more posts.
Quote from: "river1"
politics have been allowed but if/when the debate has been exhausted the thread gets closed, as it should. most times we politely agree to disagree :wink:
later jim
I would disagree... enjenjo closed the threads on his own thoughts that it was time to. I felt they should stay open for a while.
It is not my house rules though
Ah yes the 'house rules'.
On one forum I have posted a bit on the admin likened the forum to his living room and all the members were guests in his house, so folks had to abide by his rules like not putting their feet up on his coffee table.
Along with a few other pronouncements this didn't sit well with me and a few other folks posting there, so that was the impetus for me to create the goldmonkey.org forum.
I set it up with the idea that the place was more like a Bar where folks come in and do and say pretty much what they want as long as they don't destroy the place and I was just the bartender making sure the place stayed open and was available and I provided help as needed for folks who needed help, but I didn't 'run things' with any particular theme in mind. Purely a social gathering place and everyone was welcome to put their feet up on the coffee table.
Also I consider the forum to belong to the members in concept, especially since they all helped finance it, and let them have free reign on what they wanted to discuss or post about. I was just the facilitator.
Not sure if any of that might be applicable here or at all helpful.
Quote from: "Crosley"Quote from: "river1"
politics have been allowed but if/when the debate has been exhausted the thread gets closed, as it should. most times we politely agree to disagree :wink:
later jim
I would disagree... enjenjo closed the threads on his own thoughts that it was time to. I felt they should stay open for a while.
It is not my house rules though
I closed the thread because someone broke a beer bottle, and I saw two guys with pool cues. :roll: I get real nervous with political discussions, heck I can't discuss politic with my wife without fists flying, and frankly I am tired of getting hit. :shock:
I guess I am guilty as charged; I don't visit every day, and post even less - like someone else said, I just don't have much to say most of the time; most of my projects are in limbo for one reason or another. I do enjoy following much of the stuff that goes on here, though, and have felt like many of you are, at the least, friendly acquaintances. If the site gets closed, I'll certainly miss the knowledge and experience that so many of you have, and the camaraderie, but, as with most things, life will go on, and we will survive; if it is good for some of you, then so much the better. If you are in Las Vegas, and feel like you would like to visit, I'll offer to buy you a Stromboli; copy my e-mail addy from my profile, and get in touch.
Quote from: "Crosley"I am not sure problem is the proper word for the situation here on the RRT.
Agree, so let's call it the challenge.
Quote from: "Tony"As an example : some folks have responded that they visit the RRT site 'every day' yet it took a few days to 1 week for them to respond in this thread. :?
Nope don't look in every day, hellI don't even attend home every day. :lol: :lol: :lol: In fact I'll be gone from both here and there for at least the next week. Late? I'm plannin on being late for my own funeral!
Quote from: "Tony"...throne room is open for all subjects cept the CORN word with a P in front
WHAT!!!! :shock: You mean I can't take Popcorn into the Throne Room? :cry:
Anybody know how to deal effectively with whiteants/termites?
Quote from: "Rrumbler"I just don't have much to say most of the time;
Me too. :D
Quote from: "Rrumbler"I'll offer to buy you a Stromboli;
Is that like some kind of exotic hooker? :?
Methinks I'm about to learn yet another thing I didn't know thanx to the RRT. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm logged on every day, I don't post much to hide my ignorance. But I don't mind looking dumb if It'll help keep the site up.
Quote from: "Carps"Quote from: "Crosley"I am not sure problem is the proper word for the situation here on the RRT.
Agree, so let's call it the challenge.
Quote from: "Tony"As an example : some folks have responded that they visit the RRT site 'every day' yet it took a few days to 1 week for them to respond in this thread. :?
Nope don't look in every day, hellI don't even attend home every day. :lol: :lol: :lol: In fact I'll be gone from both here and there for at least the next week. Late? I'm plannin on being late for my own funeral!
Quote from: "Tony"...throne room is open for all subjects cept the CORN word with a P in front
WHAT!!!! :shock: You mean I can't take Popcorn into the Throne Room? :cry:
Anybody know how to deal effectively with whiteants/termites?
crackers ARE acceptable but only "Club with smoked oysters"....
can't help ya with the termites, never tried 'em on a cracker...
the only "corn with a p" i proscibe to is the automotive variety..
some of the customs & rods in existance are what i call "pure *" :wink:
Carps... LOL
If you type the word * the site will put up #### with spell checker for words. I think it is silly. How is the word P , oh , r , n gonna affect children and the elderly? LOL ...... I also know the spell checker here can be set with various words
Enjenjo. Re : polictics discussions. You do not care for it, some folks thrive on debate and can keep it civil at any level. Other folks fly off the handle like crazy ... I seem to be in the middle of tolerance for political areas.
I try to stay out of discussions of "P" word subjects. What little I know, there is always somebody to tell me I'm wrong Unfortunately when someone twists a subject around to those discussions after a while I quit following that post. I was there to watch the original RRT come down and no more than I knew/know I was thinking that it was financial and the space wasted with that STUFF was wasting resources. On that RRT the only person that acted to help me with understanding the site was Fat Cat. When it came back around it was/is Frank II & III so I really think they are allowing me to visit in their yard. I try to have the good sense to not make them mad while I'm there and I try to stay away from the flowers because I might trip and break something or get stung. I may walk through another yard occasionally but I'm here 5,6, 7,... times a day. I announce that I'm around even if there's nobody home. If somebody's talking sometimes I just keep my mouth shut and listen. GPster
QuoteAnybody know how to deal effectively with whiteants/termites?
Embrace them. Feed them bits of wood, they will thrive.
QuoteIs that like some kind of exotic hooker?
It's a pizza turned inside out
QuoteEnjenjo. Re : polictics discussions. You do not care for it, some folks thrive on debate and can keep it civil at any level. Other folks fly off the handle like crazy ... I seem to be in the middle of tolerance for political areas.
Make no mistake, I thrive on debate, I just went back and looked at the thread in question, and I stand by closing it. People seem to get too invested in politics.
Of the three rodding forums that I regularly follow, the RRT has consistently been the most helpful when I posted a question. It is also far and away the most courteous and polite. I appreciate the effort it takes to keep something like this going. Thanks, Frank for all you've done. 'Hope you will have a change of heart and keep RRT going, but if not best wishes and thanks again for the site.
If/when it is shut down will there be any way to archive the tech section...it would be a shame to loose all that good info.
Quote from: "seadog"... 'Hope you will have a change of heart and keep RRT going, but if not best wishes and thanks again for the site.
If/when it is shut down will there be any way to archive the tech section...it would be a shame to loose all that good info.
'Just went back and read ALL the posts. I'm glad to see things are go for a while longer. I, like a lot of others, visit and read the posts without logging in. Don't want to waste bandwidth if I don't have something germaine to say. I'll try to log in more often...got to keep that post count up. :lol:
Someone posted in reference to being "automatically logged in". Even though I always check "log me in automatically", it doesn't happen. What am I missing? Joe
Quote from: "GPster"there is always somebody to tell me I'm wrong
I too have a teenager to maintain my awareness. :wink:
Quotesometimes I just keep my mouth shut and listen. GPster
Sometimes it's not that easy, especially when I'm wrong. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "enjenjo"Make no mistake, I thrive on debate, I just went back and looked at the thread in question, and I stand by closing it. People seem to get too invested in politics.
QuoteRrumbler wrote:
I'll offer to buy you a Stromboli;
Is that like some kind of exotic hooker? Confused
Nope, I think enjenjo put it as good as it could be: "A pizza turned inside out."
It's an Italian type thing that Frank turned me on to, and it has become one of those things to me, that I just gotta have from time to time. Thanks, again, Frank.
We're off for a week in sunny Southern California - ackkkk! If you all are gone when I get back, it has been a pleasure keeping company with you. Like I said in a previous post, I am almost always open for a visit and a drink or food.
Later.
I'm yet another fellow guilty of joining and never posting, although I do check the forum regularly.
I was a member and used to go by the username "ag_chevy" about 9-10 years ago, back when I had a chopped, grey primered '48 Chevy p/u. I met a number of cool RRT members at B'ville in '02 when I drove down to help crew with the 1149 B/STR out of Calgary.
I stopped posting completely a year or so later when I sold the '48 and got back into motorcycles. In Jan 2008 we moved across the country, got rid of the Harley, and got another hotrod ('27 Essex pickup) to mess with. I rejoined the RRT under a new name but never got around to posting. I guess I was part of the problem. :oops:
I'm glad to see that the site won't be shutting down. I'll start posting a bit now.
Al
Quote from: "Boyd Who"I'm yet another fellow guilty of joining and never posting, although I do check the forum regularly.
I was a member and used to go by the username "ag_chevy" about 9-10 years ago, back when I had a chopped, grey primered '48 Chevy p/u. I met a number of cool RRT members at B'ville in '02 when I drove down to help crew with the 1149 B/STR out of Calgary.
I stopped posting completely a year or so later when I sold the '48 and got back into motorcycles. In Jan 2008 we moved across the country, got rid of the Harley, and got another hotrod ('27 Essex pickup) to mess with. I rejoined the RRT under a new name but never got around to posting. I guess I was part of the problem. :oops:
I'm glad to see that the site won't be shutting down. I'll start posting a bit now.
Al
welcome back al!!
how starting a new thread with your new garage?
later jim
Quote from: "Boyd Who"I'm yet another fellow guilty of joining and never posting, although I do check the forum regularly.
I was a member and used to go by the username "ag_chevy" about 9-10 years ago, back when I had a chopped, grey primered '48 Chevy p/u. I met a number of cool RRT members at B'ville in '02 when I drove down to help crew with the 1149 B/STR out of Calgary.
I stopped posting completely a year or so later when I sold the '48 and got back into motorcycles. In Jan 2008 we moved across the country, got rid of the Harley, and got another hotrod ('27 Essex pickup) to mess with. I rejoined the RRT under a new name but never got around to posting. I guess I was part of the problem. :oops:
I'm glad to see that the site won't be shutting down. I'll start posting a bit now.
Al
Wow , I was just wondering the other day where you were. Good to see you back.
We had the rocket cars at Bonneville in 2002. It was a US vs Canada match race sorta.
John
This is not the first place I check everyday but it is definitely the second. I enjoy reading the other posts and trying to figure out if I agree or disagree with them. I have learned a lot by just reading the posts and answers to the problems posted. I am glad you have decided to keep this open and look forward to reading and learning and maybe throwing in my 2 cents worth on subjects that I am familiar with. Thanks Frank and Frank.
I too do not post much, but I sure have learned a few things here. I would like to see the classified ads grow
Quote from: "57larry"I too do not post much, but I sure have learned a few things here. I would like to see the classified ads grow
The classified section was requested by some of the members, but has never been a high priority. The main reason, we don't have enough traffic to make it viable, never did. So for that reason we have never stopped people from posting ads on the regular board. Feel free to do so, want ad, or for sale.
Quote from: "river1"
welcome back al!!
how starting a new thread with your new garage?
later jim
Thanks Jim! Once I have enough posts that I'm allowed to post pics and links I'll do a garage build thread. I should do one for the Essex too, I guess.
Quote from: "WZ JUNK"
Wow , I was just wondering the other day where you were. Good to see you back.
We had the rocket cars at Bonneville in 2002. It was a US vs Canada match race sorta.
John
Thanks John! I remember the rocket car races...I have pics somewhere. I plan to head back to B'ville one of these years, I really had fun when I was down there. I'd like to drive the Essex down but I have a bunch of changes I need to make to it first. The only way I'd take it right now is on a trailer as it's not a very nice truck to drive.
Quote from: "Boyd Who"I'm yet another fellow guilty of joining and never posting, although I do check the forum regularly.
I was a member and used to go by the username "ag_chevy" about 9-10 years ago, back when I had a chopped, grey primered '48 Chevy p/u. I met a number of cool RRT members at B'ville in '02 when I drove down to help crew with the 1149 B/STR out of Calgary.
I stopped posting completely a year or so later when I sold the '48 and got back into motorcycles. In Jan 2008 we moved across the country, got rid of the Harley, and got another hotrod ('27 Essex pickup) to mess with. I rejoined the RRT under a new name but never got around to posting. I guess I was part of the problem. :oops:
I'm glad to see that the site won't be shutting down. I'll start posting a bit now.
Al
Welcome back Al. I remember the Chevy.
Quote from: "river1"Quote from: "mopar2dr"My focus has moved from the Street Rod and more centered on the newer Mustang GT. Yes, I have modified the car since buying it, after all I am a HOT RODDER. The car is just plain fun to drive, gets out of it's own way and handles like it is on rails.
so how about put what you did to it in another thread. i know i'd like to hear about it.
later jim
Same here. I'm coming up on a new car in year or 2 and the little red guy on my left shoulder keeps whispering "Mustang".
Quote from: "Carps"Sometimes it's not that easy, especially when I'm wrong. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wow.....that's a statement I didn't expect to read.....ww.w..w...wrong?
I admit, I've been wrong as well.....ok, time for a group hug.... :wink: :D
Cheers, and back to rodding please,
Drewfus :D
Quote from: "enjenjo"
Welcome back Al. I remember the Chevy.
Thanks enjenjo.
I miss that truck, but sometimes you need to walk away from things for awhile. I now have a better life in a small farm town 700 miles east of Calgary, with a great house and yard, and not one but TWO garages! When I built the '48 I had no garage at all, just a gravel parking pad. This new shop I'm building is like a little slice of heaven. LOL
Al
*! I have 5 posts so far and I'm trying to start a new thread with pics and a story about where I've been the past 8 years, and it won't let me! Grrrrr.
Never mind...seems to be working now. Post is in the "members rides" section if anyone is interested. :D
I belong to around 10 forums, three of them street rod forums, the rest mostly engine/performance forums. The RRT is the first one I open up every morning. I hope the RRT can continue as it has been the best source for answers to my questions. I don't post a lot as my car is now built, but I hope to continue learning about this craft by reading other posts and contributing when I have something to say. And I have to commend the moderators for how well hey have handled the posts. It has remained a friendly place where personal attacks are non-existent and camaraderie is constant. Thanks.
Hi Al, good to see you're still alive and kickin'.
Lyn, if you can't be posting build pics there's always adventures in the car pics, they are just as enjotyable, maybe even moreso.
It's OK Drewfus, it only happened once and still I'm not sure since I only thought I was wrong. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I too am guilty of not posting. it has been a long time since I had a question, or a response, but I do check in once in a while.
I have made allot of friends here, and I thank the Franks for that.
I received TONS of help when I was building my Coupe, without the help of you folks here, I probably couldn't have completed it.
I consider each and every one here a friend, I will be sad to see it go the way of the Buffalo, but in the same respect, I garnered allot of information, and most importantly, allot of good friends here on the RRT.
Thank You Frank, I appreciate you, and everyone here!!
Vance
bummer I haven't been posting because i haven't had anything to report but still reading posts
just got some good info about wipers not more than 1 beer ago
Hey Simon, where were you on the weekend?
and im mr carps best friend ,hello mate ,i must admit i dont come on here very often and to tell the truth most of us aussies only come here and on hamb when our ozrodders site is down ,ive noticed this when our site wasnt working ,im not really computer literate however ill try and post here more often if it helps to keep the site open ,im working away most of the time without computer access so i cant get on most weekdays mr carps always enjoys my posts .like i LOVE his toyotoes ,NO not really i LOVE FORDS ,i wonder if this site can put up with some good aussie humour without me getting banned :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "Monte.b"and im mr carps best friend ,hello mate ,i must admit i dont come on here very often and to tell the truth most of us aussies only come here and on hamb when our ozrodders site is down ,ive noticed this when our site wasnt working ,im not really computer literate however ill try and post here more often if it helps to keep the site open ,im working away most of the time without computer access so i cant get on most weekdays mr carps always enjoys my posts .like i LOVE his toyotoes ,NO not really i LOVE FORDS ,i wonder if this site can put up with some good aussie humour without me getting banned :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dont lie monte, you holdenphile :wink: :lol: :lol:
well i have used a few holden bits in the latest creation ,dont tell anybody but or i might get kicked off the ford forum :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "Monte.b"and im mr carps best friend ,hello mate ,i must admit i dont come on here very often and to tell the truth most of us aussies only come here and on hamb when our ozrodders site is down ,ive noticed this when our site wasnt working ,im not really computer literate
C'mon Monte, be honest, you're just not literate full stop, computer or no. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "Monte"however ill try and post here more often if it helps to keep the site open
Of course it could have the opposite effect. :shock:
Quote from: "Monte"mr carps always enjoys my posts .like i LOVE his toyotoes ,NO not really i LOVE FORDS ,i wonder if this site can put up with some good aussie humour without me getting banned :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I guess only time will tell. Do you know anybody who has some good Aussie Humour? :wink:
Quote from: "Carps"
I guess only time will tell. Do you know anybody who has some good Aussie Humour? :wink:
kevin & stanley, not to mention colncarpnta :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
gess carps sometimes you are a bit harse ,im not an execetive like yourself ,im an old worn out boilermaker ,in new speak thats a metal fabricator ,and i might be a bit dumb on the computer ,however im bloody good at what i do and im proud of it ,so go sit on it :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Guilty too.
Afraid lately I've been more into Kayaks and bicycles so havent' been around much, other than an occasional lurk. :oops:
Guilty as charged.
I too have not posted in quite a while..although I have been around here since the late 90's. I do come out here and read a few posts most days. I too..I guess..just took this great place..and all the work that the Franks and others seemingly tirelessly put into it for granted. I guess the main reason I did not post was that I had to move..and am moving again. The other is that often there was nothing I could offer..or help with.
Thanks for all the years!..and the more than fair warning about posting/site continuing.
Arnold
Just saw this thread. Gosh I sure hope this site doesn't shut down. I am just getting ready to get back into my car project. I'm busy at work tryingh to hold onto my job for another two years while the company tries to send all my work to India, so I don't have a lot of time to help with the site, but I certainly can offer financial support if it helps. I have not donated in a few years, but if that is an issue at all I'll surely help. Over the years I have saved many hours of labor and dollars in parts from the advice I have gotten here.
Just LMK what I can do to help keeo it going.
If we can maintain the level of use we have had for the last few weeks it will keep going forever.
Quote from: "enjenjo"If we can maintain the level of use we have had for the last few weeks it will keep going forever.
You da man.
Quote from: "enjenjo"If we can maintain the level of use we have had for the last few weeks it will keep going forever.
I'm happy to hear that!
Enjenjo you are the reason I came here originally. Your part in the Tex Smith chassis book led me to search you out.
There are a number of other experts here who I know can give me a good solid answer to a question and often very quickly.
I post on RRT when I need one of the experts.
Since I don't consider myself an expert on very much I don't like to clutter a thread with a meaningless response.
When I was healthy I was a daily visitor. The past year I've probably gone more than a week without a visit more than once. That is why I missed this thread earlier. My lowered activity level has nothing to do with the forum.
I think you're doing a great job. Most the smaller boards I'm on are seeing low new members and low post counts. It isn't affecting everyone, but I think the low numbers are shared by a lot of others.
When you implement new software make sure it supports mobile devices. I do more and more of my browsing from a cell phone and those that don't handle that well get fewer visits.
Should numbers decline again please consider me among those who would be happy to archive online the existing site for reference, or migrating the ongoing forum to my server and admin.
I was shocked when I read the first post. I'm willing to bail you guys out if that is the direction you choose later on.
QuoteQuote from: "enjenjo"If we can maintain the level of use we have had for the last few weeks it will keep going forever.
YIPPIE :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: 8)
Like Parklane said ...BOTH you guys are Da Man..... );b( ( I know "Lil Frank" helps out from time to time .. :lol: :lol: ) .. :b-d:
Browsing from a cell phone :?: On mine the dial would get in the way... :? :shock:
Bob..... :wink:
The level of participation will fall off again. That always happens is what I have seen in past years.
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Great news Frank.
I'll be here as long as you are :wink:
Quote from: "Crosley"The level of participation will fall off again. That always happens is what I have seen in past years.
Fatcat or Enjenjo are you using something like Google Analytics to watch the traffic and other things?
Hi, I'm Larry and I haven't posted for a while.
I was just "checking-in" this morning, something I have done fairly infrequently for the last couple of years, and this thread caught my eye immediately. I was shaken and soon realized I was part of the reason and I'm sorry. :oops:
I've always thought of this site as a family and I've considered myself a "friend of the family". I don't possess the knowledge and skill that most of you do but I sure appreciate your collective generosity and spirit of sharing. It's really an amazing place.
In reading this thread (mostly the short posts - I'll go back to the longer ones soon) I was struck by a couple of thoughts. I think the economy has had an effect as well as the "explosion" of the Facebook-type sites which siphon-off the spare time of the more social members.
Our family business is fighting for survival and that takes a lot of my time. The Chicago BrushMasters has also claimed more once-spare time. I remarried last year and that has required additional obligations as well.
As I scanned this thread I saw so many folks that I have met personally because of the RRT and their posts brought me up to date on things I've missed. Especially glad to see a post from Purple Pickup (get well soon, George). Also saw a mention of Debb (I'm going to e-mail her today), Glo and I visited them in the spring and she and Rob have been very active with their motorcycle club.
As far as the cars go, I've retitled the roadster in Glo's name so she is now an official "hot rod chick" and the coupe's currently at my stepson's shop in Central Illinois getting a long list of modifications, additions and safety issues addressed....long story.
More later...
Larry
ok, its my fault too!!!! * it only took me 15 tries to get logged in :oops:
I got the word from Larry this morn, I was very sad, but now i see its ok (at least for a while)
sure is nice seeing all my old friends posting on this thread, I sure miss my car buddies :cry:
George I sure hope your ok!!!!
Things have really changed for us, like Larry mentioned we are on the bike ALL the time. the poor Lincoln has been out of the garage once this summer (a week ago sunday) and only 5 times in the previous two yrs :(
its sad, but on the other hand we are enjoying the bike and seeing the county instead of spending weekends at car shows. we have been on a trip to the smokies last month 1800.00 miles on that trip. Headed to Traverse city next week for a long weekend. been to the U.P twice this summer for quick weekend jaunts LOL. last summer we took 8 days and went to copper harbor Mi, into Wi for a bit and then back up to traverse city. 1900 miles that trip. my buttpadapotomus is my friend LOL (thats what our friends call my air hawk seat pad_
rob tore down the bike this past winter and customized it (cant leave anything alone you know LOL)
I thougt of you yesterday (franks) we rode to Grand Rapids Oh!!!
I was going to tell Jack and charlie chops and ken that we were going to be in their neighborhood :) will be stopping at Hot Rod Harley in Muskegeon next week!!
Its not a chore to get rob to go on the bike, I just pick a place and we go!! It was getting so bad with the car he was just tired of all the crap at the shows. the one we were at a week ago had more 2006-2010's there than a used car lot :( The old girl won so she still has it. and I don't me ME lol
someone mentioned F/B yes I am guilty of that!!! and some of you on here are too LOL
Just thought I would chime in and say hi. I will try to do better, sure was great reading from everyones posts, is Bill Moparrodder stillaround??
I really do miss all of you, I just have NOTHING to contribute, since we do so little with the car anymore.
I could offer a LOT of mindless jabber :P :D :lol:
QuoteI could offer a LOT of mindless jabber
Boo!
I have lurked enough on this tread long enough I believe I have a Idea that will breathe new interest into the RRT here we go ...........
There is tread currently slowing down or dieing Named { Advice on BBC motor for towing} I believe there is as much to be learned on building an economy engine as there is in building a race engine. Here is my Idea
Start a forum on Economy With sub cataglories of building an engine and or tuning an existing engine . Now for bragging wrights. There needs to be a central place where the vehicle can be tested for supposed mileage
After the test the winner. receives the paper work from the test and the right to to crow like a Barn Yard Rooster till some one else take away his wrights with a better mileage test. If this should take off I have lots of Ideas to help it along
I can simply say that if I needed a correct and useful answer to a automotive question this is the site I would go to thanks a lot ED
Quote from: "Ed ke6bnl"I can simply say that if I needed a correct and useful answer to a automotive question this is the site I would go to thanks a lot ED
I have to agree with Ed. No bullcrap, just a straight answer and some smart assed comments. No flaming, etc. like I see elsewhere. Quality builds from quality people.
I've been gone for a while from here and minimal on other sites as well. Been sick and haven't done much for either of the boys' trucks but hoping to get past it.
Quote from: "Danimal"Quote from: "Ed ke6bnl"I can simply say that if I needed a correct and useful answer to a automotive question this is the site I would go to thanks a lot ED
I have to agree with Ed. No bullcrap, just a straight answer and some smart assed comments. No flaming, etc. like I see elsewhere. Quality builds from quality people.
I've been gone for a while from here and minimal on other sites as well. Been sick and haven't done much for either of the boys' trucks but hoping to get past it.
And I enjoy the build days!
I dont know what I will do if this place shuts down as I usually get a answer for a question alot quicker then on other sites,I will have to admit I have not been posting much lately but I dont really have much going on right now and since its been hot been riding the Harley or driving my 55 Sunliner to cool off instead of working on any projects.