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Motorhead Message Central => Rodder's Roundtable => Topic started by: kb426 on December 03, 2009, 09:09:50 PM

Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: kb426 on December 03, 2009, 09:09:50 PM
Is there anything else out there to replace the nylon zip ties we all use? I'd like to find something that isn't as sharp as a knife when tightened and trimmed.
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: enjenjo on December 03, 2009, 10:21:00 PM
I find if I cut them with this, there are no sharp edges.
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: Carnut on December 03, 2009, 11:11:39 PM
Heh Heh, What do you mean 'We All Use' Kimo Sabe?

I'm still using electrical tape, never moved up to wireties, even though I spent a few years scheduling activities in the Wichita Boeing Wireshop where wireties abounded along with really cool pnematic wiretie machines.

Just for Grins: Did you know that 95% of the workers in the Wichita Boeing Wireshop and PCB area were female?

Also have never caught on to that shink tubing type stuff either.
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: purplepickup on December 04, 2009, 12:58:58 AM
I quickly melt the sharp tip of the cut with a lighter.  Makes it nice & smooth...plus it keeps the cheap ones from loosening up.
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: enjenjo on December 04, 2009, 01:16:21 AM
As an alternative, years ago, I used to tie harnesses with waxed string, learned that on airplanes.
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: moose on December 04, 2009, 07:11:48 AM
An alternative to cutting the extra off. Take a pair of pliers and grip the excess just as it exits the grip point, Twist it a few turns and it will come right off with. This leavea a nice smooth end. Another trick. When removing zip ties do not cut the wrap. This can cause a wire to get pinched  cut across the grip end and it will release the tie.

Tim
Title: Re: replacement for zip ties
Post by: purplepickup on December 04, 2009, 11:43:29 AM
Quote from: "kb426"Is there anything else out there to replace the nylon zip ties we all use?
I find that velcro ties are handy for lots of situations.    Office supply stores have them.  Here's some at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Velcro-Reusable-Self-Gripping-Inches-91140/dp/B001E1Y5O6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=office-products&qid=1259946574&sr=8-1
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: zzford on December 04, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
Pick up a pair of flush cut diagonal cutting pliers. I think even Harbor Freight sells them. You will love them. I bought a pair (Crescent brand), And I use them a lot.
Title: F-4 tape?
Post by: 58Apache on December 05, 2009, 12:39:14 AM
Frank, been there and done that with the wax string! It came in handy on the flight line.

Whatever happened to the stretchy "F-4" tape?
Title: Re: F-4 tape?
Post by: wvcab on December 06, 2009, 01:55:46 AM
Quote from: "58Apache"Frank, been there and done that with the wax string! It came in handy on the flight line.

Whatever happened to the stretchy "F-4" tape?



f4 tape... i loved using that stuff.... havent seen it in years though, i worked on f 111's (avionics) and repaired numerous harness's with the wax string...
Title: Re: F-4 tape?
Post by: river1 on December 06, 2009, 02:07:07 AM
Quote from: "wvcab"
Quote from: "58Apache"Frank, been there and done that with the wax string! It came in handy on the flight line.

Whatever happened to the stretchy "F-4" tape?



f4 tape... i loved using that stuff.... havent seen it in years though, i worked on f 111's (avionics) and repaired numerous harness's with the wax string...

http://www.f4tape.com/

later jim
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: taxpyer on December 06, 2009, 05:35:30 AM
You can buy self fusing tape at electrical supply outlets. Have a cold drink before you go in because it is fairly expensive but boy does it work. Most electrical codes accept it being used in wet applications for a water proof seal.
Title: Tie wrap replacement
Post by: ron morrow on December 14, 2009, 05:53:24 AM
In the electrical trade I've found that Scotch 88 works well. It's strong and has a good pull strength. At the local electrical supply house it's a bit spendy. Almost $5.00 a role. I've wrapped bundles of wires to isolate the bunch. Automotive and not. At the end you have to remember to put two or three wraps just around the end of the tape only. applied in one running layer at the end it will eventually come unglued. Overlapped at the end it works pretty good. :D
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: Ed ke6bnl on December 16, 2009, 07:27:14 AM
I just saw the selffuse tape at Wallyworld around 6 dollars a roll ED
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: IC2 on December 16, 2009, 12:54:28 PM
As i sit here dripping red sticky stuff from yet one more personal ding from a cable tie, have probably used over a thousand of those dang things getting my car wired up. I'll strap up a run, figuring that I don't have any more wires, and dam'd if another batch mysteriously appears. While all of the suggestions are great, I suspect that cable ties will continue to rule if for no other reason is that they are cheap, easy to remove when that stray wire appears and are simple to install
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: Rrumbler on December 17, 2009, 04:02:22 PM
Go to a store that sells electronics assembly tools; get a pair of "flush" cutting side cutters (*); the cutting bevel on them is on the inside only, making a flush, smooth cut on the outside.  another thing that works well, but is sort of "inconvenient", is to keep a solder gun handy with a "sealing" tip installed, and use it to melt down the sharp "leftover" edge.
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: kb426 on December 20, 2009, 04:00:04 PM
I went to Sears and Home depot yesterday and was unsuccessful in finding flush cut *. I'll keep looking. I knew better than to ask one of the temp employees at Christmas time. H.D. had an assortment of Klein stuff but none were flush cutters.
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: crdnblu on December 20, 2009, 04:18:24 PM
I just bought & received these.  The price was right, & they're quite well made.  Oh, & they work very well on wire-tie flush-cutting, too!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001MXA2BQ/ref=ox_ya_oh_product
Title: replacement for zip ties
Post by: kb426 on December 20, 2009, 04:55:02 PM
I think I may have to buy some also. Looks like the deal to solve my dilemma. Thank you, everybody.