The Rodding Roundtable

Motorhead Message Central => Rodder's Roundtable => Topic started by: jaybee on November 23, 2023, 09:52:24 PM

Title: Getting pushy
Post by: jaybee on November 23, 2023, 09:52:24 PM
There's nothing agricultural about the good old pushrod V8...not when even the pushrods can be high tech.
https://www.onallcylinders.com/2022/01/13/pity-the-pushrod-why-you-should-pay-attention-to-pushrods/
Title: Re: Getting pushy
Post by: idrivejunk on November 24, 2023, 11:00:00 AM
I am suprised that electronic actuators mounted in overglorified reinforced retrofitting valve covers have not replaced valvetrains by now.
Title: Re: Getting pushy
Post by: jaybee on November 24, 2023, 04:29:55 PM
The Freevalve engine has supposedly been on the edge of small volume production for quite a few years. The engine geek in me really likes the idea of having valve timing that's absolutely perfect for every condition, right down to altering timing and fuel so as to light the catalysts faster and incorporate EGR by exhaust reversion. Sounds great...but the implementation turns out to be complicated. https://www.enginelabs.com/news/failure-to-launch-what-happened-to-the-freevalve-cam-less-engine/
Title: Re: Getting pushy
Post by: chimp koose on November 25, 2023, 07:55:26 PM
I think in order to have a computer actuated valvetrain the engine must be designed to operate at a much slower rpm . I have not kept up with the technology but it used to be that the solenoids that opened the valves could not function well at the speeds of current engines .
Title: Re: Getting pushy
Post by: kb426 on November 25, 2023, 08:36:02 PM
Formula 1 had an air operated system years ago. I think it was banned but never did read why. https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24821
Title: Re: Getting pushy
Post by: tomslik on November 26, 2023, 07:03:51 AM
thanks, i always wondered about those
Title: Re: Getting pushy
Post by: jaybee on November 26, 2023, 04:37:08 PM
Wow, that's incredible work. And there's only 31 more of them on each engine.
Title: Re: Getting pushy
Post by: enjenjo on November 26, 2023, 09:09:12 PM
The biggest problem with electronic valves seems to be reliably closing them. That is critical for longevity.
Title: Re: Getting pushy
Post by: jaybee on November 27, 2023, 07:56:20 PM
I'd say that about sums it up...and it's a real understatement.